HuntHarder Report post Posted September 16, 2015 Vortex... If you havn't used their warranty, you have not owned your scope long enough yet... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muledeerarea33? Report post Posted September 17, 2015 Thanks for the replies. My case prep is good. I load for several other rifles and most all are moa or better some with factory barrels. I blame the gun because like Lark, I can hit anything!!! Joking but really I'm not a bad shot. I'm cleaning copper tonight and actually haven't done that since I got this gun. I'm gonna try one or two other powders and read the betgers bullet length from the lands setup. After that I'll mess with the scope and crown if need be. Thanks for the input. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted September 17, 2015 I know my post doesn't help with your issue, but I have seen a few posts on here recently about the same problems with Remington. I wouldn't let someone pay me to use a Remington after the last pos rifle I picked up. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billrquimby Report post Posted September 17, 2015 Do you plan to compete in benchrest shooting matches or will you be hunting one of Arizona's ten big game species? 1.5-inch groups won't get you a plaque or a brass trophy, but they can consistently send you home with horns, hides and meat. Half-minute-of-angle or less isn't needed unless you think you might want to shoot at game at ridiculously long distances. In that case, pretend you're a bowhunter and get closer. Literally tons of game have been killed with iron-sighted .30-30 carbines that may or may not produce three-inch groups. Bill Quimby 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ernesto C Report post Posted September 17, 2015 It's nice to hear that after you said that you have a very old burned out rifle/barrel people still giving you great advice to fix the problem and the rest of us take advantage of this to learn from others I'm sure it does not have anything to do with the brand of the rifle either but any way, good luck and keep us posted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstcoueswas80 Report post Posted September 18, 2015 scrubbing the bore should have been the FIRST thing you did. Do yourself a favor, pick up jb bore paste and use it and barnes cr10. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muledeerarea33? Report post Posted September 18, 2015 Do you plan to compete in benchrest shooting matches or will you be hunting one of Arizona's ten big game species? 1.5-inch groups won't get you a plaque or a brass trophy, but they can consistently send you home with horns, hides and meat. Half-minute-of-angle or less isn't needed unless you think you might want to shoot at game at ridiculously long distances. In that case, pretend you're a bowhunter and get closer. Literally tons of game have been killed with iron-sighted .30-30 carbines that may or may not produce three-inch groups. Bill Quimby honestly bill I have a few other hunting rifles that shoot better even if they don't need to. I'm not looking to do anything with it other than get it to shoot better. I like playing with guns and accuracy and this paticular gun is messing with me. My 1963 Winchester 30-06 shoots clovers even though it's had thousands of rounds thru it. Being that they have been mostly cast lead doesn't hurt the fact. This gun is just an irritant that I want to make better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muledeerarea33? Report post Posted September 18, 2015 scrubbing the bore should have been the FIRST thing you did. Do yourself a favor, pick up jb bore paste and use it and barnes cr10. I've had bad luck cleaning copper on older guns before, one in particular took about 30 rounds of good military ammo to bring it back to shooting a 3" group! after copper cleaning it opened up to just over a foot. I wiped copper in this 7mm last night, wasn't real bad so hopefully it'll shoot when I get to take it out again Sunday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstcoueswas80 Report post Posted September 18, 2015 What copper solvent did you use? Did you let it sit? Did you scrub? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muledeerarea33? Report post Posted September 18, 2015 CR-10. yes and yes. lots!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rcdinaz Report post Posted September 19, 2015 I am sure you have done this but really check out the scope, bases, and screws and make sure they are all tight preferably torqued to the right specs with the correct tool. Then scrub the piss out of it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.270 Report post Posted September 19, 2015 this sounds more and more like throat erosion. just starting to go away. i've shot out several over the years and they just all the sudden won't group anymore. once they get to that point it seems like they get worse every shot. Lark Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kingzero Report post Posted September 20, 2015 It's nice to hear that after you said that you have a very old burned out rifle/barrel people still giving you great advice to fix the problem and the rest of us take advantage of this to learn from others I'm sure it does not have anything to do with the brand of the rifle either but any way, good luck and keep us posted. Where was it ever said the barrel was infact burned up? Maybe it is, but thats an expensive guess. I would confirm it with a bore scope before dropping the money on a new barrel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites