Sneaker Report post Posted August 26, 2015 Quite the concept they have come up with there: http://www.arizonastripguides.com/zero-guide-fees/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Str8Shot Report post Posted August 26, 2015 And I am sure they have quiet a few dedicated Non Res Strip guys paying and waiting ... only thing I did not see was if by miracle you draw 2 years in a row Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
218buck Report post Posted August 26, 2015 If they change the non resident draw like they are proposing less non residents will draw tags in AZ this is a brilliant idea they came up with. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
208muley Report post Posted August 26, 2015 If I read this correct it's not just for strip tags. So I could pay 349 for one year and draw unit 10 and a guide only will cost me $349 if I draw the first year...... How do they make money on that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rossislider Report post Posted August 26, 2015 I think they are planning on the majority of people taking quite a few years to draw these tags. I'm sure they calculated draw odds vs cost when coming up with this plan. Even if they do make a little less, they will have regular income throughout the year, year after year. Wouldn't be surprised to see more outfitters do something like this. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rcdinaz Report post Posted August 26, 2015 Brilliant! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kwp Report post Posted August 26, 2015 I bet that the first year you only get a 1 day hunt, 2nd year a 2 day hunt, etc until you build up to a whole hunt. If you draw after 1 year and get a 1 day guided hunt they will sell you the rest of the hunt at full price. Just my guess, I know nothing about this but do know that if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesFanatic Report post Posted August 26, 2015 So what if I have 18 deer points and pay for next year. I only pay $350 for my guide when I draw? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rossislider Report post Posted August 26, 2015 Just read on their current Facebook post that it is currently only open to non resident hunters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HuntHarder Report post Posted August 26, 2015 Says non-Residents onle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
khmer6 Report post Posted August 26, 2015 Sounds like they are banking on residual income and hoping some people expire or quit hunting before they actually draw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
khmer6 Report post Posted August 26, 2015 Kind of like a life insurance plan or something Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flatlander Report post Posted August 26, 2015 Its pretty easy math. 1 hunter x $6,000 = $6,000 in outfitter's pocket, he makes $3k, MAYBE on a good day. Or . . . 20 applicants x $350 - $7,000 and if no one draws, there is no cost to the outfitter. It won't take long for this method to pay for itself. His client base went from 5 guys to 500 guys instantly. Good business if you ask me. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reganranch Report post Posted August 26, 2015 Its pretty easy math. 1 hunter x $6,000 = $6,000 in outfitter's pocket, he makes $3k, MAYBE on a good day. Or . . . 20 applicants x $350 - $7,000 and if no one draws, there is no cost to the outfitter. It won't take long for this method to pay for itself. His client base went from 5 guys to 500 guys instantly. Good business if you ask me. Don't bring that devil's magic, known as math, on here(totally kidding Flatlander).The business model is solid and definitely constructed around non-residents with poorer draw odds. These outfitters have a constant monthly income and when they dont have a client, who's been drawn in this system, they can grab one from outside this membership pool. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted August 26, 2015 sounds like a gimmick to me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites