Dead head pick up question

[Couzer]

So we hit a pretty nice velvet bull on the railroad, every time I go by I want to pick it up! It's just sitting there all by itself. Looks like it going to go be there a while. But I'm betting it will get picked up by some one. Can I legally pick up velvet antlers???

[bonecollector777]

Since it was hit by a train I think to be legal you would have to report to azgfd and they would probably give it to you. Was it far enough along that the antlers aren't rotting?

[Couzer]

Since it was hit by a train I think to be legal you would have to report to azgfd and they would probably give it to you. Was it far enough along that the antlers aren't rotting?

Good point, I think it was far enough along to were they weren't rotting. I'll give G&F a call monday to see what they say.

[rageinthesage]

I'd go get it.

[TonyC]

Fair game... I wouldn't worry about it. Worst case, call G&F and see..

[wildwoody]

Pick it up , the heck with the gamies , they say if it has hair you can't keep it. Put a old tag on it. Don't get them burrocrates involved

[AZ_SAWBUCK]

If you let the G&F know about it they will more than likely confiscate it or go and get it themselves. It will become their personal property and b sitting in their trophy collection in a shed or game room. I don't think I would report it.

[Sneaker]

"If an individual wishes to keep such wildlife parts found in the field (other than shed antlers), he/she must contact the Arizona Game and Fish Department so an officer can determine the cause of death of the animal. If it is determined the animal died from a natural cause, such as predation, disease, fights, falls, drowning, lightning, etc., the wildlife part may be possessed by the individual. If the officer determines the animal died from an unnatural cause, such as wounding loss, illegal activity or vehicle collision, no part of the wildlife may be possessed or transported.

If the cause of death cannot be determined and the wildlife part is fresh, meaning bone or tissue moisture is present and the part is not oxidized, possession will not be allowed. This also applies to parts, such as skulls, where the age cannot be determined because the finder has boiled and/or cleaned them. If the cause of death cannot be determined and the part is old (with no moisture and oxidized), possession will be allowed.

Just remember, the key is to contact the Arizona Game and Fish Department prior to picking up the part. There is no way these parts may be lawfully possessed until the department has determined the cause of death."

http://www.azgfd.net/wildlife/hunting-news/are-you-shed-antler-hunting-legally/2009/03/12/

[Couzer]

Ok thanks sneaker! I'm going to call the AZ G&F and ask them if I can keep it being determined it was hit by a train. If they say no, then it will just sit there with no knowledge of location.

[Red Sparky]

Since it was hit by a train I think to be legal you would have to report to azgfd and they would probably give it to you. Was it far enough along that the antlers aren't rotting?

??? When the ML deer season was Sept. 10-20th here I killed bucks still in velvet. Never took the antlers, except 1 I had mounted, to the taxidermist and 20 years later they still have the velvet on them and haven't rotted.

[hoghntr]

 

 

Since it was hit by a train I think to be legal you would have to report to azgfd and they would probably give it to you. Was it far enough along that the antlers aren't rotting?

??? When the ML deer season was Sept. 10-20th here I killed bucks still in velvet. Never took the antlers, except 1 I had mounted, to the taxidermist and 20 years later they still have the velvet on them and haven't rotted.

Taxis freeze dry and or use a chemical on them for preservation

[Red Sparky]

The point is all the ones I didn't take to the taxi are just fine with the velvet still on them. Never did anything but let them dry out.

[JLW]

 

"If an individual wishes to keep such wildlife parts found in the field (other than shed antlers), he/she must contact the Arizona Game and Fish Department so an officer can determine the cause of death of the animal. If it is determined the animal died from a natural cause, such as predation, disease, fights, falls, drowning, lightning, etc., the wildlife part may be possessed by the individual. If the officer determines the animal died from an unnatural cause, such as wounding loss, illegal activity or vehicle collision, no part of the wildlife may be possessed or transported.

If the cause of death cannot be determined and the wildlife part is fresh, meaning bone or tissue moisture is present and the part is not oxidized, possession will not be allowed. This also applies to parts, such as skulls, where the age cannot be determined because the finder has boiled and/or cleaned them. If the cause of death cannot be determined and the part is old (with no moisture and oxidized), possession will be allowed.

Just remember, the key is to contact the Arizona Game and Fish Department prior to picking up the part. There is no way these parts may be lawfully possessed until the department has determined the cause of death."

http://www.azgfd.net/wildlife/hunting-news/are-you-shed-antler-hunting-legally/2009/03/12/

 

R12-4-322

 

B. If not contrary to federal law or regulation, an individual

may pick up and possess naturally shed antlers or horns or

other wildlife parts that are not fresh without a permit or

inspection by a Department officer.

you don't have to call for every pick up...

they put this in a last year or maybe a couple years ago....

of course it prolly doesn't pertain to this situation...

James

[hoghntr]

The point is all the ones I didn't take to the taxi are just fine with the velvet still on them. Never did anything but let them dry out.

Oh gotcha.

 

I boiled a skull on small velvet buck once and antlers were like hard foam under velvet and just snapped. Crazy stuff

[Sneaker]

JLW, thats awsome, looks like effective July 2013. Now they just have to fight with people about what "not fresh" means...