Str8Shot Report post Posted August 13, 2015 Ok so if you abandoned your car at the airport parking lot longer than 24 hours and it get stolen, while you purposely left it there for 10 days while on vacation. With the intent of planning on returning to get your property / car or lets say camera for this fact, that you plan on returning to get as you left there for your desired length of time. Then your car is not stolen right, so therefore the thief, or is that person a thief should not have to give your car back right. This is only for abandoned property sake, not FS laws. ???? I'm I wrong? Wow.... The BS that people have to sell to themselves to justify not following rules/laws..... By the way people every day walk away from vehicles that break down, or run out of gas or just park it planning on returning to them to find them gone... IMPOUNDED .... if it was FS that took the cam and he goes to their site and reads the laws he will find what he should do to try and reclaim it ... If it was not forest service, there is nothing he can do because by the law it was abandoned .. it was litter ... The gamble of using trail cams in Public forests are no different really, these days, than hanging it in public areas downtown like a park or sidewalk corner... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyDesert Report post Posted August 13, 2015 http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/coconino/home/?cid=stelprdb5408525 According to this, no one is breaking "the law" by leaving a camera out, although they do not advise it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Str8Shot Report post Posted August 13, 2015 This is going to end up as a rerun of this thread. http://www.coueswhitetail.com/forums/topic/59234-hopefully-not-your-cam/ Na man .... I am done pointing out how it is like guys laying down money on the poker table then crying foul when they lose it all ... Take RESPONSIBILITY for the risk and gamble you take ... IGNORANCE IS BLISS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyDesert Report post Posted August 13, 2015 This is going to end up as a rerun of this thread. http://www.coueswhitetail.com/forums/topic/59234-hopefully-not-your-cam/ This is what I was afraid of, I just wanted to make aware to keep an eye out. I never wanted to get into a heated debate about whether I was breaking any laws or not... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildwoody Report post Posted August 13, 2015 Well Str8shot, if you don't like herein it shut your pie hole, and stay out of it. Had all I can take from you holly then throw liberal BS. Shut the heck up. We no you love the socialist government, you should go work for Berny sanders campaign. Sorry for the rant everyone but I have had enough of the he she's pie hole. My opinion only 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MT_Sourdough Report post Posted August 13, 2015 The application of the law is the BS. I've been a LEO and I know that laws are what lawyers say they are and all are open to interpretation. Prime example- Forest Service wanted to stop people leaving camping trailers vacated at camping sites for more than three days and they got shut down by people with enough power than the Forest Service. Otherwise if some jerks were right, I'd be able to pull my truck up to somebodies trailer and take it if it has sat vacated for three days. My camera on a tree isn't hurting anybody, but somebody selfishly laying claim to a camping site by parking their trailer there a week or so in advance is stopping other people from using that campsite. I am not saying this to start an argument with people who leave trailers to hold a camping site, but rather just to demonstrate how laws get bent and twisted. Anybody who expresses the law as being black and white is truly the most naive. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Str8Shot Report post Posted August 13, 2015 Well Str8shot, if you don't like herein it shut your pie hole, and stay out of it. Had all I can take from you holly then throw liberal BS. Shut the heck up. We no you love the socialist government, you should go work for Berny sanders campaign. Sorry for the rant everyone but I have had enough of the he she's pie hole. My opinion only Screw off woody wood pecker .... I will speak my mind as a Hunter any day I feel like it ... LIBERAL now that is some funny BS right there .... It is ignorant Hunters bending and ignoring rules that give hunter a bad name ... IS your vagina hurting .. is it that time of the month for you ? THIS SITE HAS BEEN TAKEN OVER BY MORE WHINERS AND CRY BABIES THAN A HOSPITAL NURSERY ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5guyshunting Report post Posted August 13, 2015 30 years in az and I have seen 1 forest service officer in the woods. He was checking the condition of a designated trail in prescott national forest. I dont think FS took your camera. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azshtr Report post Posted August 14, 2015 30 years in az and I have seen 1 forest service officer in the woods. He was checking the condition of a designated trail in prescott national forest. I dont think FS took your camera. You saw one out of a truck? That's a rare treat to see such a thing. I'm just kidding... any FS guys here don't take offense. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flatline Report post Posted August 14, 2015 Somebody vents about something that someone took and you automatically say he is breaking the law or he aboandoned it! maybe he has been checking it every 48 hours and moved it lower or higher on the tree, but it doesn’t matter it was his someone took it and he was just venting. Hopefully mine don’t get ripped off, if they do then thats the chance I’m taking. You may hear me b$tch but i knew it could happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6ANut Report post Posted August 14, 2015 Yeah I try and stay away from that area of the unit all the quads dirt bikes atv etc etc are gone. I'm a little south of ya. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Report post Posted August 14, 2015 Lots of speculation. Sounds like CNN 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Sparky Report post Posted August 14, 2015 So there is a lot of BS justifying thieves stealing something. "If left out for 72 hours or even 24 hours it is abandoned property, free for the taking". Doesn't matter it is chained to a tree with a name and phone number. Cut and pasted from a previous post so everybody can read it: Currently there is no specific regulation regarding game cameras left in the forest. The forest service does not recommend leaving any property in the forest. Game cameras have been frequently reported stolen. Nothing about game cams being considered abandoned. Yet it does state blinds must be taken out of the forest daily so steal all the blinds you want after dark. So there is your justification to be a thief while "upholding the law". So I put something out and check it every 24 hours, after 24 hours or 72 hours, depending where you are, it is abandoned and free for anybody to take. That is BS reasoning for thieves because I don't see these sorts of post on trapping. Traps are left out for more than 72 hours, checked every 24 hours. If you want to use the BS abandoned property it has to apply to all property and not just game cams. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4Falls Report post Posted August 14, 2015 I cant imagine any forest circus guy with enough motivation to carry bolt cutters out to a waterhole to cut a camera off a tree much less climb up a tree and cut down a treestand. How come you never see a forest service employee pick up an "abandoned" old beer can or tire from the side of a logging road. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hucker Report post Posted August 14, 2015 So, how does one (read: FS employee) know when I placed my camera? Do they "chalk the tires" like the meter maids in big cities? When does my clock start ticking on my free 24-hrs before it becomes abandoned? If I move it from one tree to another, in the same general area, does my clock restart? How does one know? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
