AverageJoe Report post Posted August 14, 2015 Lots of forest service guys carry bolt cutters. Lots o forest service workers cut down trail cams..not just the leo's. If you leave it out around flag it will be cut down...and not by hunters, but forest service or hippies. Hide it well and you wont have to worry as much. Put it on a water hole by mormon lake and as he found out it will be gone. Red Sparky you can be pissed all you want but the fact is, if forest service sees one out in the forest for a period of time they take it. No justification, i could care less either way, but that is what happens majority of the time. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AverageJoe Report post Posted August 14, 2015 On a side note.........Quit your bitching everyone! dang its annoying being associated with some of you so called "hunters" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Sparky Report post Posted August 14, 2015 I am not pissed about anything. Well except for thieves making excuses under "abandoned property" to steal stuff. If they have no regulations on them as quoted from their own page, then they really can't touch them legally. Nothing in their own regs say I can't put one out for 365 days a year so they can't take it down. Same thing with traps set and checked legally, if you are following the rules and regs, they can't touch them. Ever hear of cops losing evidence and getting sued under illegal seizure? Funny thing is I went to the FS here and said I lost a trail cam and wonder if it had been "impounded". Response was they don't have the manpower to do that unless they get a report of a damaged tree. My bet it is some tree hugger PETA type people stealing them, might be poachers who go out and hunt them down so they won't get caught, might be like hunting sheds but they hunt game cams instead. Doesn't really matter as a thief is a thief. I really wonder how many of the "abandoned cameras" end up on Craigslist, EBAY, or pawn shops. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creed Report post Posted August 14, 2015 Camps can't be abandoned for more than 24 hours. I would bet they can apply the same rules to trail cameras. They write the rules and change them as needed to meet their agenda. http://thenationalforests.com/the-national-forests/national-forest-camping-rules.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnnie blaze Report post Posted August 14, 2015 So, how does one (read: FS employee) know when I placed my camera? Do they "chalk the tires" like the meter maids in big cities? When does my clock start ticking on my free 24-hrs before it becomes abandoned? If I move it from one tree to another, in the same general area, does my clock restart? How does one know?maybe it's like the sexual harassment rule....STARE for more then 3 seconds....BUSTED Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
208muley Report post Posted August 14, 2015 Hunters are the number one reason cameras disappear.. Period .... Bunny huggers, forest service, azgfd might take a few once in a while but 99% of the time it's other hunters. It's gotten so dang competitive out there, just to kill an animal, that some guys are losing their minds, morals, and ethics. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hucker Report post Posted August 14, 2015 Hunters are the number one reason cameras disappear.. Period .... Bunny huggers, forest service, azgfd might take a few once in a while but 99% of the time it's other hunters. It's gotten so dang competitive out there, just to kill an animal, that some guys are losing their minds, morals, and ethics. Whatever happened to hanging your camera right over the top of the others guy's, right after you mooned his of course, just to let him know he has a little competition?!? Stealing is where it is at nowadays, huh? The moral decay of America is in full bloom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flatline Report post Posted August 14, 2015 Hunters are the number one reason cameras disappear.. Period .... Bunny huggers, forest service, azgfd might take a few once in a while but 99% of the time it's other hunters. It's gotten so dang competitive out there, just to kill an animal, that some guys are losing their minds, morals, and ethics. Whatever happened to hanging your camera right over the top of the others guy's, right after you mooned his of course, just to let him know he has a little competition?!? Stealing is where it is at nowadays, huh? The moral decay of America is in full bloom. Competition is still going on, I hung mine up and a week later a guy put his like 10 feet from mine. No biggie first guy there gets to hunt the spot is the way i look at it,plus i have lots more area’s i can hunt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildwoody Report post Posted August 14, 2015 +1, and sorry str8shot, yesterday I was on the rag, I do get what your saying, just busting ya Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sneaker Report post Posted August 14, 2015 Hunt were nobody else does, problem solved:) But seriously, I've had very little problems with any units in the 15s through 18s when the camera is hid half decent or a hike in. These units see only a fraction of the traffic the higher mountains and more popular units do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QhunterAZ Report post Posted August 14, 2015 did you happen to contact the local forest service guys up there to atleast see if they have it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyDesert Report post Posted August 15, 2015 did you happen to contact the local forest service guys up there to atleast see if they have it? No, but I am going to when I am back up there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertBull Report post Posted August 15, 2015 I guess thieves are getting more compassionate. They only turned my camera around to face away from the water and took the SD card. Hopefully a 5 foot rattler latched on to their private parts on the way out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elkhunter1 Report post Posted August 15, 2015 Well Str8shot, if you don't like herein it shut your pie hole, and stay out of it. Had all I can take from you holly then throw liberal BS. Shut the heck up. We no you love the socialist government, you should go work for Berny sanders campaign. Sorry for the rant everyone but I have had enough of the he she's pie hole. My opinion only Screw off woody wood pecker .... I will speak my mind as a Hunter any day I feel like it ... LIBERAL now that is some funny BS right there .... It is ignorant Hunters bending and ignoring rules that give hunter a bad name ... IS your vagina hurting .. is it that time of the month for you ? THIS SITE HAS BEEN TAKEN OVER BY MORE WHINERS AND CRY BABIES THAN A HOSPITAL NURSERY ! Notice to Hunters NOTICE TO HUNTERS Tree stands are permitted if they do not cause resource damage i.e. cutting limbs, putting nails and bolts into trees or any other permanent alteration/injury to trees or surrounding vegetation. Tree stands need to be removed after daily use. Tree stands left unoccupied for any extended period of time is prohibited. Title 36 CFR 261.9(a) and 262.13. Currently there is no specific regulation regarding game cameras left in the forest. The forest service does not recommend leaving any property in the forest. Game cameras have been frequently reported stolen. There are new rules for motor vehicle use on the Forest. All motor vehicles must stay on designated roads and trails as shown on the Motor Vehicle Use Map (MVUM). Driving off of designated roads for elk retrieval is allowed in Game Management Units 6A, 6B, 7E, 7W, and 8; but driving off of designated roads for game retrieval is not allowed under any circumstances in game units 5A, 5BN, 5BS, or 11M. You can get an electronic copy of the map, which shows all of the designated routes here or get a hard copy of the map at any Coconino National Forest office and most of the outdoor retail stores around Flagstaff. The Forest strongly suggests using the map on your Garmin GPS or smartphone. Instructions on how to do this are located here. So this posting FROM the Forest Service is wrong "according to you" hmm sounds like you need to re-read what the FS publishes each year!!!!!! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildwoody Report post Posted August 15, 2015 Touché Share this post Link to post Share on other sites