MULEPACKHUNTER Report post Posted August 5, 2015 As a wildcard maybe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattMan Report post Posted August 5, 2015 Why does the US Taxpayer pay to preserve and protect FERULE AND INVASIVE horses, donkeys, and burros, and also pay to defend efforts to manage or remove them, yet also pay to remove or combat invasive grasses and weeds? The "Wild Equine" in the US is no more natural or native than a freakin' tumbleweed. They're ferule strays, or descendents of such. No better than trespass cattle that should have a bounty on their head. There's plenty of equine fodder in rescues (I use the term loosely) for anyone that REALLY wants a horse... usually turned in by somebody that REALLY wanted a horse till they figured out they eat money, and shoot work. Shoot 'em. Take 'em to 27 and dump them, it's likely cheaper than the dog food they're feeding the half breed wolves they reintroduced up there. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idgaf Report post Posted August 5, 2015 Burger King admits it has been selling beef burgers and Whoppers containing horsemeatFast food chain has faced allegations of orchestrating a cover-upFast food chain had earlier assured its products were not involvedProcessing company Silvercrest has been using non-approved ingredientsAldi today admitted burgers sold through UK stores probably contaminatedBy SEAN POULTER FOR THE DAILY MAILPUBLISHED: 12:41 EST, 31 January 2013 | UPDATED: 02:23 EST, 1 February 2013 656View commentsBurger King has tonight admitted that it has been selling burgers Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2271440/Burger-King-admits-selling-beef-burgers-Whoppers-containing-horse-meat.html#ixzz3hwat9amMFollow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cactusjack Report post Posted August 5, 2015 I ate horse when I lived in Chile. I liked it. I would eat it again. Really lean, so it is probably really good for ya. Bring on the horse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cactusjack Report post Posted August 5, 2015 Does any one know if these horses can be genetically linked to Spanish ponies or are they just horses that people have turned loose over the years? Thats the issue. The bunny lovers want DNA results. Alot of the indian horses have the same DNA because they got them from the Spanish. Most of the horses on the rim are from one ranch on the WMA that got out during the rodeo fire. Do you think those guys on the rez have DNA records?? I would bet the horses on the salt are from, mostly the rez. Bottom line they are non native and should be removed. Look at what they do for non native fish or shellfish in our waters. Get rid of the horses! I wish ppl started leaving some out there taking a dirt nap... There have been wild Horses running around in Arizona way before the rodeo fire and yes they are a pain in the butt and left unmanaged a real issue... But what you say is a bit over the top since The ELK herd we enjoy hunting is not native to Arizona ( our Native elk were hunted out) .... I know a lot of guys up north pissed at the removal of small mouth from Rim lakes heck most of our game fish species are not native, and thank god for that.... The elk herd is at least native to North America. And we are allowed to manage their population. They should sell tags for the ponies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost85 Report post Posted August 5, 2015 I've had wild horses mess me up on more antelope/deer/elk hunts in unit 1 and 27 than i care to discuss. seems like every time i am making my way in on an animal i kick up a heard of wild horses. they are pretty ornery too. i think most of them up there have gotten loose from the sprucedale guest ranch and multiplied like rabbits Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GotBowAz Report post Posted August 5, 2015 Back in the early 80's I used to hunt Muleys from Usury mountain down to the river and Usury pass/Ellsworth to the south bend in the salt river. But then the horses population grew over a few short years. At first they were cool to see but then the deer moved out of the area completely. You might get lucky and have one amble through where I could always find them on any given time. I think they should be managed. Put out a hunt on them, Id buy a tag and im sure others would too. Id like to see the hunt in the spring when most other seasons are closed. Horses breed year around. I think they would be a blast to archery hunt. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edge Report post Posted August 5, 2015 Horses breed year around. I think they would be a blast to archery hunt. No, horses do not breed year round. Mares ovulate less than 6 months from March to Oct, but usually only allow a stallion to approach in spring. Given this and an 11 month gestation, they are terribly inefficient at propagating. Horses plowed our fields, pulled our wagons and carried us and our cannons into war. Horses are buried beside our fallen on the battlefield. I'd sooner round up illegals and send them home than harm a single horse unnecessarily. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest akaspecials Report post Posted August 5, 2015 An interesting slideshow from G&F regarding the impact of burros and wild horses: http://www.azgfd.gov/inside_azgfd/documents/BurroPresentation12-17-09.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cactusjack Report post Posted August 5, 2015 Horses breed year around. I think they would be a blast to archery hunt.No, horses do not breed year round. Mares ovulate less than 6 months from March to Oct, but usually only allow a stallion to approach in spring. Given this and an 11 month gestation, they are terribly inefficient at propagating. Horses plowed our fields, pulled our wagons and carried us and our cannons into war. Horses are buried beside our fallen on the battlefield. I'd sooner round up illegals and send them home than harm a single horse unnecessarily. Oxen plowed our fields, pulled our wagons and we eat the heck out of them. Eating horses should not be a crime. Protein is protein. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edge Report post Posted August 5, 2015 Barking up the wrong tree, CJ. I'm for the humane marketing and slaughter of horses, cattle, sheep, etc. Humane being the keyword, not all killing is humane. If conservationists want to flip the bill to manage and eventually thru attrition, handle this herd, why oppose it? Let them dart and castrate the stallions, roundup the adoptable ones. Do something rather than nothing. But I won't be joining you on any horse bow hunts. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carpcody Report post Posted August 5, 2015 [quote name="Edge" post="578764" timestamp="1438802283 But I won't be joining you on any horse bow hunts. Dang Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MT_Sourdough Report post Posted August 5, 2015 I don't know. but I think the Cards could possibly edge out the Seahawks for the western division 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MULEPACKHUNTER Report post Posted August 5, 2015 Dont waste your time edge your obviously not going to get an informed conversation 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edge Report post Posted August 5, 2015 M Dont waste your time edge your obviously not going to get an informed conversation You're right as usual buddy, adios 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
