Pine Donkey Report post Posted July 4, 2015 You should be fine re freezing since it was still very cold. One problem you will face is that entire freezer of meet might re freeze as one big chunk held together by the blood that dripped from the top. Do yourself a favor an move the pieces around each hour or so until everything is refrozen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Sparky Report post Posted July 4, 2015 Never plug a freezer or fridge into a gfi!!! The compressors are notorious for tripping a gfi hence the reason the fridge in your kitchen isn't protected by a gfi. I'm a service electrician and see a ton of these calls every year. There are a few different things you can do if your handy to "fix" this problem or you can just call me! No the reason your fridge is not plugged into a GFCi is the fridge is a small kitchen appliance. I bet the home run for one of the two required 20 amp small kitchen appliance circuits comes into the fridge and then goes to a GFCI that is line/load wired. The NEC code book requires all kitchen receptacles serving the countertops to be GFIC protected. The fridge receptacle does not serve a countertop so it is not GFCI protected. Now the NEC code requires all receptacles in the garage to be GFIC protected, even the garage door opener. I have had my freezer plugged into a GFIC for 10 years and it has only gone out twice, not for very long, due to the pump on my water feature, never due to the freezer. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
208muley Report post Posted July 4, 2015 Thanks for disagreeing then saying basically the same thing. I didn't know I had to get technical and quote code to be right. Not everyone here is an electrician so I kept it real basic. My bad, next time I will quote code and get technical. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Sparky Report post Posted July 5, 2015 Didn't know I said the same thing. In fact I think I said 180 degrees what you did. Believe me I have run into enough "handy fixes" to know to fix it right. The best ones I have run into so far is where a 2 wire with ground MC (hot, neutral, and ground) needed two hot circuits. So what did the electrician do you might ask? Instead of pulling a 3 wire with ground MC ( 2 hots, neutral, ground) 20 feet in the drop ceiling they just made the ground hot and left it green. The other one was a 480 volt 3 phase motor where everything from the disconnect into the motor was green from when they built the hotel (original electricians). So needless to say when the engineering staff hooked up the replacement motor I got called to replace the motor again as well as the motor starter and while I was there I replaced the wire from the disconnect into the motor and phase identified it. I even checked rotation of the motor before turning it on. You don't have to quote code to be right. I didn't even quote code, I made reference to the code book. If you want to get into an electrical debate we can whip out EE98J's and see whose is bigger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idgaf Report post Posted July 5, 2015 Didn't know I said the same thing. In fact I think I said 180 degrees what you did. Believe me I have run into enough "handy fixes" to know to fix it right. The best ones I have run into so far is where a 2 wire with ground MC (hot, neutral, and ground) needed two hot circuits. So what did the electrician do you might ask? Instead of pulling a 3 wire with ground MC ( 2 hots, neutral, ground) 20 feet in the drop ceiling they just made the ground hot and left it green. The other one was a 480 volt 3 phase motor where everything from the disconnect into the motor was green from when they built the hotel (original electricians). So needless to say when the engineering staff hooked up the replacement motor I got called to replace the motor again as well as the motor starter and while I was there I replaced the wire from the disconnect into the motor and phase identified it. I even checked rotation of the motor before turning it on. You don't have to quote code to be right. I didn't even quote code, I made reference to the code book. If you want to get into an electrical debate we can whip out EE98J's and see whose is bigger. In this game of Jeopardy can I be Alex Trebek? Until last Wednesday For the last fourteen years I have worked for the largest electrical distributors. I have worked with Double E's in power plants to handy man fixing "220" so I can up with some great questions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRDATR Report post Posted July 5, 2015 It never amazes me seeing what some people will do with electrical. The Fire Alarm Industry is even worse and some of the things I see posted on the NICET Facebook page is just unreal. Back in the late 70's I was working with another electrician in a Circle K. This was back when the cash registers were in the middle of the store. Well we were tasked with removing the freezie machine as part of the remodel I was removing the copper drain line at one end and Mike was at the machine. As we took it apart at the same time we both got hit pretty hard by electricity. He yelled at me and I yelled at him. Well we then traced the pipe back into the walkin and what did we find? Some hack decided to add a porcelain base light bulb base and tapped power off the light switch on the wall. Problem was he was too lazy to bring the neutral to it so he ran a short piece of wire from the base and put a j-weaver ground clamp on the copper pipe. We were lucky it didn't turn out more serious for us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idgaf Report post Posted July 5, 2015 It never amazes me seeing what some people will do with electrical. The Fire Alarm Industry is even worse and some of the things I see posted on the NICET Facebook page is just unreal. Back in the late 70's I was working with another electrician in a Circle K. This was back when the cash registers were in the middle of the store. Well we were tasked with removing the freezie machine as part of the remodel I was removing the copper drain line at one end and Mike was at the machine. As we took it apart at the same time we both got hit pretty hard by electricity. He yelled at me and I yelled at him. Well we then traced the pipe back into the walkin and what did we find? Some hack decided to add a porcelain base light bulb base and tapped power off the light switch on the wall. Problem was he was too lazy to bring the neutral to it so he ran a short piece of wire from the base and put a j-weaver ground clamp on the copper pipe. We were lucky it didn't turn out more serious for us. Circle K's were some of the worst. I have seen where they were annoyed with the fusing, got rid of it and replaced it with a smashed piece of copper tubing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azslim Report post Posted July 5, 2015 meanwhile what is going to happen to all the defrosted meat???????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRDATR Report post Posted July 5, 2015 He said he was going to refreeze it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
