The long season?

[murfys69law]

Well Naturegirl, I see you have done it again. You are in a "Mental Gunfight" and you are shooting blanks. First of all you state the young man was feeding his family. IF and only IF they had no other way to get food then I say do what you must. But because the lazy a$$ mother wouldn't work. and you stated she could, then you have no dog in this fight with your comment. Wrong is wrong.

Second, you state that you have ALL these people tell you they are killing 4 animals a year and they are just a hopeless case. Have you contacted the authorities and given them this info? Why do you associate or know these people, (poachers)? Have you ever tried to explain your views to them and tell them the harm they are doing? If it was me I would be doing whatever it takes to see these "Idiots" brought to justice.

"Sometimes it's better to be quiet and thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt"....Abraham Lincoln

[idgaf]

Well Naturegirl, I see you have done it again. You are in a "Mental Gunfight" and you are shooting blanks. First of all you state the young man was feeding his family. IF and only IF they had no other way to get food then I say do what you must. But because the lazy a$$ mother wouldn't work. and you stated she could, then you have no dog in this fight with your comment. Wrong is wrong.

Second, you state that you have ALL these people tell you they are killing 4 animals a year and they are just a hopeless case. Have you contacted the authorities and given them this info? Why do you associate or know these people, (poachers)? Have you ever tried to explain your views to them and tell them the harm they are doing? If it was me I would be doing whatever it takes to see these "Idiots" brought to justice.

"Sometimes it's better to be quiet and thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt"....Abraham Lincoln

Gentlemen,

 

Get the popcorn because I am going to pick a fight. Murphy your comments are rude and asinine. You can have a difference of opinion without getting slanderous. She said her only experience was with young man feeding his family. I have known several people that have taken game out of season for a better reason than taking a trophy. One was an older gentleman many years my senior who shot 76 elk in his lifetime some with tags some without. None of the meat went to waste and him growing up on the west slope of Colorado in cattle country never taking the breeding stock. He never shot a cow, calf, spike, or bull above 5 points.

 

Another one is my brother in law who grew up very poor. Simple if they did not have game meat they did not eat. Yet another one an apache friend of mine, had a tag for a cow or calf. I was with him on the reservation when we came up to a spike (not legal that year for the tag he had) he shot it. I said you just shot a spike and he goes "look it was sucking his mother's t_t" This practice is socially accepted on the Rez.

 

Murphy, I find most of your comments self righteous and of little value. I enjoy nature girls post because it reminds me of the journey as a hunter I started many years ago. I do not condone hunting out of season for any reason, but in some cases it is understandable. It is against the law to take game out of season, but isn't a greater crime for an impoverished family to starve.

[AZkiller]

Back on the farm in Minnesota, my Grandpa used to carry his lever action rifle in the tractor. When he saw a deer eating in his field he would shoot it, and leave it to rot, or at least that's what I was told. He must have passed those bad traits on to my uncle. I went on vacation up to northern Minnesota to visit my cousins. One night they said we were going "Spotlighting". I didn't know what the heck it meant, and they said you could see deer at night. Sure enough we spotlight a deer, and dipstick uncle pulls out a rifle, and let's loose. They never found that deer. Fish and Game show up to the farm the next day, and searched it, because my Uncle was well known to them, as someone made a call reporting gunfire that previous night. Scared the crap out of me. I'm glad I am not like them.

Haha yeah.. Northern MN reminds me a bit of Alabama. Especiallu up around Babbit.

[murfys69law]

 

Well Naturegirl, I see you have done it again. You are in a "Mental Gunfight" and you are shooting blanks. First of all you state the young man was feeding his family. IF and only IF they had no other way to get food then I say do what you must. But because the lazy a$$ mother wouldn't work. and you stated she could, then you have no dog in this fight with your comment. Wrong is wrong.

Second, you state that you have ALL these people tell you they are killing 4 animals a year and they are just a hopeless case. Have you contacted the authorities and given them this info? Why do you associate or know these people, (poachers)? Have you ever tried to explain your views to them and tell them the harm they are doing? If it was me I would be doing whatever it takes to see these "Idiots" brought to justice.

"Sometimes it's better to be quiet and thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt"....Abraham Lincoln

Gentlemen,

 

Get the popcorn because I am going to pick a fight. Murphy your comments are rude and asinine. You can have a difference of opinion without getting slanderous. She said her only experience was with young man feeding his family. I have known several people that have taken game out of season for a better reason than taking a trophy. One was an older gentleman many years my senior who shot 76 elk in his lifetime some with tags some without. None of the meat went to waste and him growing up on the west slope of Colorado in cattle country never taking the breeding stock. He never shot a cow, calf, spike, or bull above 5 points.

 

Another one is my brother in law who grew up very poor. Simple if they did not have game meat they did not eat. Yet another one an apache friend of mine, had a tag for a cow or calf. I was with him on the reservation when we came up to a spike (not legal that year for the tag he had) he shot it. I said you just shot a spike and he goes "look it was sucking his mother's t_t" This practice is socially accepted on the Rez.

 

Murphy, I find most of your comments self righteous and of little value. I enjoy nature girls post because it reminds me of the journey as a hunter I started many years ago. I do not condone hunting out of season for any reason, but in some cases it is understandable. It is against the law to take game out of season, but isn't a greater crime for an impoverished family to starve.

 

The only thing I guess I can say about your comment is.....IDGAF what YOU think of my post. It's nice to know that you and her know all these people that poach and post on a hunting community that is here to do what we love which is hunting and do it legally. You don't condone it but it's OK in some cases. Wrong is wrong. illegal is illegal. What part of that don't you understand? I said IF there is NO other way to feed your family then do what you must. That's a big IF. Does it matter if your friend shot an animal that wasn't a trophy or a calf suckin' on a teet? Yes. He had a tag and decided to shoot an animal that wasn't legal excepted on his rez or not. Does it matter that your friend shot 76 elk in his lifetime some with tags and some without? Yes. Why didn't he just shoot a beef cow the times he didn't PAY for a tag? As far as naturegirl. I enjoy her pictures. She however did state that she had all these people telling her they shoot 4 animals a year. Doesn't sound like ONE experience to me. So again I say, IDGAF what you think. This is what I think. I believe there are more people here that think this way as well. I'm done with my popcorn. Are you?

[mattys281]

 

 

Well Naturegirl, I see you have done it again. You are in a "Mental Gunfight" and you are shooting blanks. First of all you state the young man was feeding his family. IF and only IF they had no other way to get food then I say do what you must. But because the lazy a$$ mother wouldn't work. and you stated she could, then you have no dog in this fight with your comment. Wrong is wrong.

Second, you state that you have ALL these people tell you they are killing 4 animals a year and they are just a hopeless case. Have you contacted the authorities and given them this info? Why do you associate or know these people, (poachers)? Have you ever tried to explain your views to them and tell them the harm they are doing? If it was me I would be doing whatever it takes to see these "Idiots" brought to justice.

"Sometimes it's better to be quiet and thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt"....Abraham Lincoln

Gentlemen,

 

Get the popcorn because I am going to pick a fight. Murphy your comments are rude and asinine. You can have a difference of opinion without getting slanderous. She said her only experience was with young man feeding his family. I have known several people that have taken game out of season for a better reason than taking a trophy. One was an older gentleman many years my senior who shot 76 elk in his lifetime some with tags some without. None of the meat went to waste and him growing up on the west slope of Colorado in cattle country never taking the breeding stock. He never shot a cow, calf, spike, or bull above 5 points.

 

Another one is my brother in law who grew up very poor. Simple if they did not have game meat they did not eat. Yet another one an apache friend of mine, had a tag for a cow or calf. I was with him on the reservation when we came up to a spike (not legal that year for the tag he had) he shot it. I said you just shot a spike and he goes "look it was sucking his mother's t_t" This practice is socially accepted on the Rez.

 

Murphy, I find most of your comments self righteous and of little value. I enjoy nature girls post because it reminds me of the journey as a hunter I started many years ago. I do not condone hunting out of season for any reason, but in some cases it is understandable. It is against the law to take game out of season, but isn't a greater crime for an impoverished family to starve.

 

The only thing I guess I can say about your comment is.....IDGAF what YOU think of my post. It's nice to know that you and her know all these people that poach and post on a hunting community that is here to do what we love which is hunting and do it legally. You don't condone it but it's OK in some cases. Wrong is wrong. illegal is illegal. What part of that don't you understand? I said IF there is NO other way to feed your family then do what you must. That's a big IF. Does it matter if your friend shot an animal that wasn't a trophy or a calf suckin' on a teet? Yes. He had a tag and decided to shoot an animal that wasn't legal excepted on his rez or not. Does it matter that your friend shot 76 elk in his lifetime some with tags and some without? Yes. Why didn't he just shoot a beef cow the times he didn't PAY for a tag? As far as naturegirl. I enjoy her pictures. She however did state that she had all these people telling her they shoot 4 animals a year. Doesn't sound like ONE experience to me. So again I say, IDGAF what you think. This is what I think. I believe there are more people here that think this way as well. I'm done with my popcorn. Are you?

 

 

I wonder how many of the people that feel they have no other choice but to poach have a hard time deciding which of their many firearms to do it with? I also knew some guys who went on 'meat hunts' when I was a kid, my step dad among them, and each and every one of them had thousands of dollars worth of weapons, not to mention enough miscellaneous crap around their houses to put on one helluva yard sale and raise some cash. Not to mention the option to simply get a job and keep their arrogant, self-righteous, know-it-all mouths shut long enough to simply do what they were told and actually keep the job for more than a couple months.

 

I'm glad I took an interest in archery and started reading Bowhunter magazine where the writing of gentlemen such as M.R. James, Dwight Schuh, Larry D Jones & Chuck Adams taught me the right way to do it.

 

Some people are victims of bad luck, most are victims of their own foolish pride & inability to control themselves.

[idgaf]

Murphy, obviously because you talk louder and more than everybody else you must be smarter than everybody. The gentlemen I was referring to with the 76 elk started at age 8 or 9 and shot his last one at age 72 before passing. Some legal and some otherwise. All my friend said was they were very poor and they needed the meat. I am not a law enforcement officer or an accountant so I did not ask exactly how much money was enough to feed his family or the legality of it. I do know that he mentioned that in the late 40's it was an accepted practice. If I was as smart as you think you are I would have written down the stories he told me and wrote his memoirs, he lived a full life that would have made a great movie.

[5guyshunting]

I gotta throw this, back in the day, grandpas thought they were entitled to make their own way. They hunted a lived off of their own property or where ever they chose. Im talking a while back 30's to the 60's. This practice was what they learned growing up. Im sure some of the references on this topic are poaching cases, but a lot are probably just a way of life back in the day.

 

Times have changed and welfare will help'm out today. So no need for poaching, Obamas got your back.

[murfys69law]

Murphy, obviously because you talk louder and more than everybody else you must be smarter than everybody. The gentlemen I was referring to with the 76 elk started at age 8 or 9 and shot his last one at age 72 before passing. Some legal and some otherwise. All my friend said was they were very poor and they needed the meat. I am not a law enforcement officer or an accountant so I did not ask exactly how much money was enough to feed his family or the legality of it. I do know that he mentioned that in the late 40's it was an accepted practice. If I was as smart as you think you are I would have written down the stories he told me and wrote his memoirs, he lived a full life that would have made a great movie.

IDGAF. Again you have made this personal with your smart a$$ comment to me. I have tried to stick the facts and not call names which you certainly aren't mature enough to do without. Live your life how you want, associate with who you want. Admire who you want. Maybe write a book or make a movie about your great friend who shot all these elk, legal or not. Hope it's a best seller. Maybe you can play his little sidekick learning how to hunt. But don't try to convince me that what he or any of these people did is right.

[idgaf]

Murphy, look at the irony of you calling a personal attack when you did the same thing at the top of the page to naturegirl. The person I was referring to was a very interesting character and the only interesting thing left about this discussion with you is to see your need for the last word. I will put my hunting skills against yours any day.

[Guest wdenike]

Wow, have not been paying close attention to this one. But am glad that every morning. I wake up and thank the guy up stairs for another day above the dirt. Then while brushing my ivorys. Make sure my NOSE IS IN THE MIDDLE OF MY FACE. Than promise my self to keep it there though out the day. And also not to rush to make a fool of my self. By shoving my way to the front of the line to cast the first stone at others.

 

Oh, and my how things have changed in the world where everyone gets a trophy. Being attacked or slammed. Use to mean there was a probably a good chance. Someone was going to be spitting there teeth out like chicklits, or a visit to the hospital was the order of the day. Guess the Innanet has bred a new kind of tuff guy. Wonder if any of them ole ones could still be lurking around. Carry on!!!

 

 

 

Take care, Willie

[.270]

so some drunk from wyoming made a dumb statement and it's turned into everbody here bein' mad at everbody here? weird. Lark

[murfys69law]

I'm not mad at all. I am stating my opinion and beliefs about how I was raised without the fact that my family from SW Louisiana & SE Texas never poached and they were dirt poor as well. They lived off the land as well at times by raising their own animals or eating armadillo's or turtles or catching fish from canals and that didn't require a license or tag. They worked hard at whatever they could do so they didn't have to break the law. My grandfather was a deputy sheriff in Cameron, LA and used to arrest poaches in the early 40s and 50s and that's how I was raised. The original post I agree was some drunk talking crap. But when others try to justify people they know shooting animals out of season that they have been witness to, I find offensive as well as illegal. BTW..Armadillo is great bar-b-qued.

[idgaf]

This topic definitely snowballed. Some people miss the point though, it is ok NOT to have the same viewpoint as every body else. It is much more interesting when Civilized people have different points of view and discuss with passion and logic. What is not acceptable is when the attacks get personal. Murphy believes poaching is not right under any circumstance. I believe under certain conditions it is NOT morally objectionable. Who is right? The answer is both of us and neither of us.

[murfys69law]

 

only interesting thing left about this discussion with you is to see your need for the last word.