mc68 Report post Posted April 8, 2015 I am starting this thread because of my desire to try and understand some of the members logic that confuses me. In the Elk hunting section, bonecollector777 became quite defensive of couesmagnets responses. I too commented to bone777 only to get basically the same regurgitated response. What I would like to know is why, when someone disagrees with you and several other members as well, you always come back with smart a*+ comments instead of having a normal conversation. I have seen many times people commenting on G&F management here in Az. Obviously this gets quite alot of ideas and what always happens is that a few choice members become quite loud and rude with their belief on how things should be ran. Bone777 and any others who care to chime in, why do you always have to spin it into something else? For instance, you turned that thread in elk, into a battle of the ages. You made several comments as to how the older generation doesn't have the answers and if we go against your logic then we are wrong, and are in bed with G&F. Are you capable of having a civilized debate? When I was raised I was always taught to respect my elders. Its something I still practice to this day. If I can have someone who has spent a lot more time than myself doing something, and they are willing to pass that knowledge onto me, than I am all ears. I would be foolish to not want to hear what they had to say. How on earth could you possibly dismiss someones experience who has been hunting and guiding longer than you have been alive? It makes no sense to me?! As I stated in that thread, I know I don't have all the answers, I'm a long way from it, but listening to others can help me if I allow it to. Also, I noted that the people i have guided had big praise for our game management. They had no reason to do so other than the fact that they saw how good it is here. Now those guys have hunted around the world under numerous agencies and they said ours was best. That spoke volumes to me. Why would you dismiss people like that? So you know and don't try to twist it, I am in no way a big cheerleader of G&F. There are some things I would like to see changed, but I know they do a good job overall. I would like to know why it is that you feel as though you have all the answers? You certainly have very strong opinions, so why are you not capable of understanding that you might be wrong in some of those opinions? Also, is it possible that you could carry on a conversation and just stay on point? Don't twist things up and make wild accusations, please. I must admit, it is a bit uncomfortable wring this thread, but I would really like to get the site back to the way it was meant to be, a place where outdoorsman come and shoot the crap without a bunch of nonsense.... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted April 8, 2015 who has time to read this garbage? cliffs notes on this wall of text? 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HuntHarder Report post Posted April 8, 2015 Why write a 1 page paragraph about 1 member? Amanda has engineered this button called IGNORE. Use it if you can not stand someone on this site. It is that easy! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZLance Report post Posted April 8, 2015 Hunt more...post less! 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AverageJoe Report post Posted April 8, 2015 Who cares!!! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bonecollector777 Report post Posted April 8, 2015 haha oh man a thread just for me! I'm honored. Just a quick response to your questions. My first comment on that thread was that I don't think azgfd should get credit for Arizona having big animals and that it's genes that decide that. A simple opinion which was then answered by others opinions that they didn't agree or that they did agree or they slightly agreed but had more to add to it. THEN came the people getting upset at me. For what? For stating my opinion like everyone else? I'm sorry I don't agree with your opinion. Soon after came the comments that since I was young I didn't know what I was talking about and since I hadn't guided all over the western US I didn't have a clue. So why is it OK for you to tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about first and then when I respond saying I disagree with you and that you may not know what youre talking about I'm the bad guy being mean and disrespecting my elders. doesn't that work the other way around too? Why can you say what you want to me yet I can't say what I want to you? I'm one of the most respectful guys you'll meet until you start attacking me for my opinion. Then I'll attack your opinion right back. if that's not OK for me to respond to people getting upset about my opinion not agreeing with their opinion that azgfd is God's gift to the earth why does anyone ever give their opinion? If my original comment had been OMG I love the game and fish! I'm their biggest fan! Everyone would have went right on with their lives. But since it wasn't a positive comment about game and fish here we are two days later still talking about it. This is about as clear as I can be about how I feel about this site. I love the site and love seeing all the great animals taken and people helping each other but I'll never understand why everyone always throws a fit when I make a comment about the game and fish. That's all I'll say about the subject and won't respond to this post after this. You can put me on ignore if you would like but I find it insanely ridiculous that you decided to start a whole thread dedicated to that conversation and thread. That's all. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muledeerarea33? Report post Posted April 8, 2015 Results are out, no one cares!! I didn't get drawn so I care. But no one else!! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mc68 Report post Posted April 8, 2015 I have put up with watching numerous people get bashed on by a couple specific members and I guess Im kind of calling them out. All I'm asking for is a couple questions to be answered. Trphyhuntr I would appreciate your thoughts here. But, please stay on the topic and keep civil if you can. Its not that I can't stand them, I just don't understand why they post the way they do and have no respect for others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mc68 Report post Posted April 8, 2015 Who cares? Me obviously! Please feel free to not comment if you have nothing informative to say. Thx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mc68 Report post Posted April 8, 2015 Bone, I think if you would go back and objectively look at the thread, he was not attacking you, hr made the fact known that it takes a lot more than just genetics for the quality here in Az. He gave facts to his argument and that's when you accused him of being a kiss butt and it went downhill from there. That's my whole point, sometimes we are just wrong and its much better to man up and accept it. No need to call names and create sarcasm. I would just about guarantee you that when you are right about something he would give props. I moved this topic to a different thread and now I'm getting hate from people over that?! You just can't win here anymore. And to clarify, i never told you that you didn't know what you are talking about, my point was someone else had the whole picture and not just a part of it. Don't be so defensive. I can guarantee you that as you get older you will see that you really don't have all the answers right now and listening and learning from others will benefit you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oz31p Report post Posted April 8, 2015 You put me in a very uncomfortable position when I have to defend bc777. He post some obnoxious things. But at lease they are his original thoughts. Any one can go along to get along. At lease he stands up for what he believes. ...even when He's wrong. If you can't accept the diversity on cwt.com maybe you should seek your entertainment elsewhere. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Sparky Report post Posted April 8, 2015 So let's keep beating a dead horse. My answer is "Charge of the light brigade" by Alfred Lord Tennyson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reezenhunter Report post Posted April 8, 2015 This is not facebook..... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bonecollector Report post Posted April 8, 2015 Why??? Was this thread started? Send the guy a PM if you have a problem with him. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
