Shawn Wagner wins appeal

[prowlerMan]

 

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Very 1st thing I see on the document. Might want to be careful bc777. Depending on how this is interpreted...? He might come after you too... This is a public forum and this might be considered publicizing...

Haha you might want to know what you're talking about before you post prowlerman. All that means is that an attorney can't use it as precedence in future cases, because it's a memorandum decision. It won't be published in a case reporter.

And for the record I understand he sued because he feels he was treated unfairly. The part I find ridiculous is they all got away without any punishment for the things they did wrong yet he sticks it to the company he works for that does something wrong to him. They could have punished all of them severely for what they did but like always they stick up for their wardens no matter what they do and then they get sued. And who does that money come from to pay the wannabe law enforcement officer? From us.

Ok.

[.270]

So they screwed up the investigation. What about where they got it all correct. Like the kid that shot the sparrow? Is he in prison yet? Where he should be. Lark.

[Guest 300ultramag.]

Lmao!

[Xforcebaby]

Is it any wonder the application and draw system is screwed up every year??? Totally bogus.

[Jcubed]

 

NOTICE: NOT FOR OFFICIAL PUBLICATION.

UNDER ARIZONA RULE OF THE SUPREME COURT 111©, THIS DECISION IS NOT PRECEDENTIAL AND MAY BE CITED ONLY AS AUTHORIZED BY RULE.

 

Very 1st thing I see on the document. Might want to be careful bc777. Depending on how this is interpreted...? He might come after you too... This is a public forum and this might be considered publicizing...

Haha you might want to know what you're talking about before you post prowlerman. All that means is that an attorney can't use it as precedence in future cases, because it's a memorandum decision. It won't be published in a case reporter.

 

And for the record I understand he sued because he feels he was treated unfairly. The part I find ridiculous is they all got away without any punishment for the things they did wrong yet he sticks it to the company he works for that does something wrong to him. They could have punished all of them severely for what they did but like always they stick up for their wardens no matter what they do and then they get sued. And who does that money come from to pay the wannabe law enforcement officer? From us.

Wow. Just wow. You "get" that they violated his rights and an appeals court agreed with the previous decision and you are still on here complaining?

 

You truly are special.

[HuntHarder]

JCUBED- I think it is pretty clear that we agree that game and fish botched the investigation, but that facts of the case still remain a constant. He committed a violation and got off on a technicality. I do not think there are too many people who believe he did not commit a wildlife violation after reading the transcript. If you do not think he did, your reading comprehension is in question. As far as his rights being violated, there are procedures that need to be followed, and apparently the investigators did not follow them. BIG TIME BOTCH!!!

[murfys69law]

The way I read this is the process for his investigation was not followed properly. The court ruled on that and he was awarded 100k for being treated unfairly. OK..fine. But the fact that he did violate G&F laws by giving his tag to someone and they killed the elk and tagged it still remains unlawful. Couldn't this have been handled separately. A law is a law and he broke it as well as others.

[DesertBull]

The botched investigation and the fact he gave his tag to another person, who then killed a wounded bull and used that tag on it, are two totally separate issues.

[countrykid]

So they screwed up the investigation. What about where they got it all correct. Like the kid that shot the sparrow? Is he in prison yet? Where he should be. Lark.

He ended up having to go to court 5 times , but in the end was found not guilty.

[Zeke-BE]

Jcubed sounds like he is game and fish, coming to the defense, and pointing out why are we still upset, your avatar is no pictures, no location, and subject is " usual stuff on the Internet". Combine all this it looks like a friend or colleague in the defense of G and F. But of course that is all speculation on my part and there are many people who have the same status like you. But the reason why everyone is so upset, is that we the hunters when doing something dumb and could be given a warring on certain matters, just get the iron fist from the authorities. I have friends who are no longer help out Gamefish because the way they were treated while trying to give them information on illegal matters. And now we have a warden who suspect Botch, but is now getting off from their own crime. If it is legally done right it's still upsetting! But on defense of the wardens friends, and in the spirt of the law and not the Letter! I probably would've put the elk down myself as well as the Spirt of the Law! But I would been cited as a poacher and they would've taken my bow and I hunting license! And guarantee I would've lost my case

[Guest 300ultramag.]

^^^^ ☝️

[murfys69law]

The botched investigation and the fact he gave his tag to another person, who then killed a wounded bull and used that tag on it, are two totally separate issues.

My point exactly. Why did they not prosecute him for what he did wrong in a separate trial?

[DesertBull]

 

 

The botched investigation and the fact he gave his tag to another person, who then killed a wounded bull and used that tag on it, are two totally separate issues.

My point exactly. Why did they not prosecute him for what he did wrong in a separate trial?

I think he got an award as game warden of the year recently too.

[Jcubed]

Jcubed sounds like he is game and fish, coming to the defense, and pointing out why are we still upset, your avatar is no pictures, no location, and subject is " usual stuff on the Internet". Combine all this it looks like a friend or colleague in the defense of G and F. But of course that is all speculation on my part and there are many people who have the same status like you. But the reason why everyone is so upset, is that we the hunters when doing something dumb and could be given a warring on certain matters, just get the iron fist from the authorities. I have friends who are no longer help out Gamefish because the way they were treated while trying to give them information on illegal matters. And now we have a warden who suspect Botch, but is now getting off from their own crime. If it is legally done right it's still upsetting! But on defense of the wardens friends, and in the spirt of the law and not the Letter! I probably would've put the elk down myself as well as the Spirt of the Law! But I would been cited as a poacher and they would've taken my bow and I hunting license! And guarantee I would've lost my case

Priceless.

 

Last I checked this is still a country with a judicial system and habeus corpus. His rights were violated, court found in his favor and issued a judgement. We have been over this before.

[.270]

Desert bull, he did win some award for best game warden or some deal. The thing is, he deserved it. As screwed up as he is, he's the best they got. How can the azgfd hope to have credibility when they have guys like this working for em. And what happened to his partners in crime? They broke the law too. Anything punitive happen to them? Lark.