Presmyk Report post Posted March 26, 2015 Looking for some accubonds got a 50 pack from a member then some berger from averagjoe but gun seems to like nosler more possibly trade? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AverageJoe Report post Posted March 26, 2015 I have some 338 250 gn berger hybrid otm tactical. Probably 90 rds Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lancetkenyon Report post Posted March 26, 2015 Bruno's has the 250 Hybrids and 250 HVLDs in stock. I was in there yesterday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Presmyk Report post Posted March 26, 2015 Lance cam you educated on those and the difference between the two? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lancetkenyon Report post Posted March 27, 2015 HVLD = Hunting Very Low Drag bullet. A bullet with a boat tail and secant ogive with a high ballistic coefficient designed specifically for hunting with a thinner jacket to promote rapid expansion. The VLDs are known to be picky on seating depth, which vary from gun to gun. Meaning more load development and added costs, but on game performance is spectacular once you tune your loads. Berger makes a target version as well. Thicker jacket, but same BC and flight characteristics. I believe the secant ogive is not quite as accrue as a tangent ogive shape, which is what most match bullets are designed with. Like SMKs, Nosler CC Match, Hornady Amax and Match BT. Hybrid= A new bullet design by Brian Litz. It combines the nose designs of both the secant ogive (meaning low drag) and the tangent ogive (much easier to tune and not as seating depth finiky). Still has a long boat tail, and BC is actually a slight bit better than the VLD. But these are listed as a target bullet, meaning a thicker jacket not designed for hunting. Plus the tangent ogive portion aids in accuracy a bit, but maintains a very high BC. Like most match bullets not specifically designed for hunting, the hybrids have still proven to be a very good hunting bullet. But if you look at F class and 1k match shooters, 90% of them shoot the new hybrids, since they are much more forgiving for seating depth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lancetkenyon Report post Posted March 27, 2015 I could be totally full of BS too.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Presmyk Report post Posted March 27, 2015 That all sounds good to me lol sounds like you might have a general idea lol what is the ogive exactly? Because you see that and the bc with every bullet. And is it the higher the bc the more expansion? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lancetkenyon Report post Posted March 28, 2015 Higher BC means better at fighting the wind so less drift, and more aerodynamic meaning less drop in both velocity and elevation at distance. A higher BC bullet will drop less and retain more velocity than a lower BC bullet of the same weight and fired at the a me muzzle velocity. As for ogive, it os the shape of the radius on the front of a bullet. Nothing to do with expansion. That is effected by both jacket thickness and tip design. Berger are all a hollow point design, and the hollow point is called a meplat. The larger the meplat and thinner the jacket, the faster the expansion. Also has do do with the lead core construction . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Presmyk Report post Posted March 29, 2015 Nice good info. My brother joel said you are the guy to ask or talk about any rifle Info 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites