Anyone have a CC hit that couldn't buy a license during the draw process?

[Vossy]

Two of the three persons in our group application did not have a valid hunt license at the time of the draw deadline.. So, I was only able to buy 2 hunt licenses in the actual draw transaction..

 

I then immediately went and bought a license separate to the draw transaction with my department ID. It seemed to find my old license and allowed me to purchase a new license and everything looked ok. So, I'm wondering if anyone else experienced this during the draw process,and if so, have you seen a CC hit for your draw?

 

I'm wondering if they have to do manual process to trace those to valid hunting permits, and that may be causing delay.... Just a thought, since we put in for a late cow tag (3057) with 3 BPs, and I was pretty confident we were going to get hit.

[AZHUNTER05]

That's how I did it, and I got a hit for goat!

[Vossy]

Today?

[AZHUNTER05]

No, I got mine last Friday.

[dsturla]

Two of the three persons in our group application did not have a valid hunt license at the time of the draw deadline..

?two of three applicants did not have licenses at the draw deadline? Sounds like a disqualifier for all 3.

 

So, I was only able to buy 2 hunt licenses in the actual draw transaction..

I thought 2 people did not have valid licenses at the deadline. If you bought 2 licenses (prior to the deadline), then only 1 person was invalid, me confused.

 

I then immediately went and bought a license separate to the draw transaction with my department ID. It seemed to find my old license and allowed me to purchase a new license and everything looked ok.

So person #3 from the second paragraph is now valid, but it depends when this 3rd license was purchased (before or after the deadline).

 

So, I'm wondering if anyone else experienced this during the draw process,and if so, have you seen a CC hit for your draw?

 

I'm wondering if they have to do manual process to trace those to valid hunting permits, and that may be causing delay.... Just a thought, since we put in for a late cow tag (3057) with 3 BPs, and I was pretty confident we were going to get hit.

I've reread this 3 times and think I almost have it figured out, maybe if you clarified a bit more folks would chime in.

[Toph79]

I think if you put in online and the licenses were not expired when you put in than your fine but you would have to get a new license before your hunt if you were drawn

[Vossy]

For what it's worth. I meant the two people who didn't have licenses already registered to their department ID had to have them purchased at the time of the draw ( in the same transcaction) It did not allow the purchase of a third license, at that time, because the third person, had a valid license that would expire in a few weeks.

 

So I was only able to buy two (aforementioned) licenses during the actual draw transaction, and had to buy a third license in a separate transaction after the actual draw submission... Making all three hunters valid if drawn.

 

Many have noted the verbiage on the draw page to this effect: Hunters applying online for the Spring 2015 Elk and Antelope seasons may encounter an issue when attempting to input their hunting license information, but there’s no need to worry. If you purchased a new license since the 2015 elk/antelope draw opened, your application form may auto-populate with your old license number, but it will be okay. Your new or renewed license number will be attached to your records and to your application, and your application will be accepted."

 

My question was merely if anyone had a cc hit and also experienced this error condition for one or more of their parties in the group during the actual draw transaction.

[Explorer]

My license expired the day before I put in. But when I applied it wouldn't let me buy a new license (still had my expired number in the system). I finished my application and purchased a new license seperate that instant. My card was hit but I'm not sure if it was me or my son who drew. I do remember reading something on g&f website about the subject so i was not to concerned.

[yotebuster]

For what it's worth. I meant the two people who didn't have licenses already registered to their department ID had to have them purchased at the time of the draw ( in the same transcaction) It did not allow the purchase of a third license, at that time, because the third person, had a valid license that would expire in a few weeks.

 

So I was only able to buy two (aforementioned) licenses during the actual draw transaction, and had to buy a third license in a separate transaction after the actual draw submission... Making all three hunters valid if drawn.

 

Many have noted the verbiage on the draw page to this effect: Hunters applying online for the Spring 2015 Elk and Antelope seasons may encounter an issue when attempting to input their hunting license information, but theres no need to worry. If you purchased a new license since the 2015 elk/antelope draw opened, your application form may auto-populate with your old license number, but it will be okay. Your new or renewed license number will be attached to your records and to your application, and your application will be accepted."

 

My question was merely if anyone had a cc hit and also experienced this error condition for one or more of their parties in the group during the actual draw transaction.

 

I have a subscription to hunters trailhead and plugged in your hunt. According to last years draw odds you made the bonus pass with your 3pts but only had a 47% chance of getting drawn in the bonus pass. You still should have had a good chance in the random draw as well, but there is a decent chance you may not have gotten drawn. Hope I'm wrong but it definitely wasn't a guaranteed tag.

[singleshot]

For what it's worth. I meant the two people who didn't have licenses already registered to their department ID had to have them purchased at the time of the draw ( in the same transcaction) It did not allow the purchase of a third license, at that time, because the third person, had a valid license that would expire in a few weeks.

 

So I was only able to buy two (aforementioned) licenses during the actual draw transaction, and had to buy a third license in a separate transaction after the actual draw submission... Making all three hunters valid if drawn.

 

Many have noted the verbiage on the draw page to this effect: Hunters applying online for the Spring 2015 Elk and Antelope seasons may encounter an issue when attempting to input their hunting license information, but there’s no need to worry. If you purchased a new license since the 2015 elk/antelope draw opened, your application form may auto-populate with your old license number, but it will be okay. Your new or renewed license number will be attached to your records and to your application, and your application will be accepted."

 

My question was merely if anyone had a cc hit and also experienced this error condition for one or more of their parties in the group during the actual draw transaction.

Isn't it odd that that two weeks ago the above online statement also included " A valid license must have been purchased before the deadline date of the application period" This statement has now been removed and added towards the bottom of the same page as if it always existed. I guess it's the departments web page and they can amend it as they choose, but I have lost all faith in this years draw.

I started filling out online apps 3 weeks before the deadline and it took 4 evenings to get 14 apps to go through. One would fly through without hiccup and the next would error out stating "invalid hunter I.D. number". These apps were for members of my family, all of who have been applying for hunts for numerous years. After several attempts of entering the same app the website would hose up. The next night same problem, couple apps. would go through and then errors.

My son in law and grandson's apps had the "last years license" issue. When I tried to purchase new licenses I would get a pop up window stating "valid license already on file" . Finally was able to purchase 2015 licenses after the app deadline, so I think they will be rejected per the above statement.

This isn't my first go round with online apps. We apply for everything and I am very computer competent with a high speed connected MAC. I have never been a AZGFD basher, but I think this draw was a complete fiasco to which the general public will never be made aware. I feel like I bought 14 raffle tickets for a prize that never existed. Well 13, we did get charged for 1 bull tag.

[Vossy]

 

For what it's worth. I meant the two people who didn't have licenses already registered to their department ID had to have them purchased at the time of the draw ( in the same transcaction) It did not allow the purchase of a third license, at that time, because the third person, had a valid license that would expire in a few weeks.

 

So I was only able to buy two (aforementioned) licenses during the actual draw transaction, and had to buy a third license in a separate transaction after the actual draw submission... Making all three hunters valid if drawn.

 

Many have noted the verbiage on the draw page to this effect: Hunters applying online for the Spring 2015 Elk and Antelope seasons may encounter an issue when attempting to input their hunting license information, but there’s no need to worry. If you purchased a new license since the 2015 elk/antelope draw opened, your application form may auto-populate with your old license number, but it will be okay. Your new or renewed license number will be attached to your records and to your application, and your application will be accepted."

 

My question was merely if anyone had a cc hit and also experienced this error condition for one or more of their parties in the group during the actual draw transaction.

Isn't it odd that that two weeks ago the above online statement also included " A valid license must have been purchased before the deadline date of the application period" This statement has now been removed and added towards the bottom of the same page as if it always existed. I guess it's the departments web page and they can amend it as they choose, but I have lost all faith in this years draw.

I started filling out online apps 3 weeks before the deadline and it took 4 evenings to get 14 apps to go through. One would fly through without hiccup and the next would error out stating "invalid hunter I.D. number". These apps were for members of my family, all of who have been applying for hunts for numerous years. After several attempts of entering the same app the website would hose up. The next night same problem, couple apps. would go through and then errors.

My son in law and grandson's apps had the "last years license" issue. When I tried to purchase new licenses I would get a pop up window stating "valid license already on file" . Finally was able to purchase 2015 licenses after the app deadline, so I think they will be rejected per the above statement.

This isn't my first go round with online apps. We apply for everything and I am very computer competent with a high speed connected MAC. I have never been a AZGFD basher, but I think this draw was a complete fiasco to which the general public will never be made aware. I feel like I bought 14 raffle tickets for a prize that never existed. Well 13, we did get charged for 1 bull tag.

 

Agreed... Congrats on the tag..

 

Now to see if I can get through to 'Debbie Rittenback' who I keep getting routed to by a Customer Service rep, who apparently never answers her phone, and is purported to be the 'only one in the department' who can charge or reverse the charges on credit cards... Regarding the triplicate license and app fee charges that were posted to my CC on the day of the application deadline...

 

Ahhh, azgfd.. gotta love e'm...

[Vossy]

 

For what it's worth. I meant the two people who didn't have licenses already registered to their department ID had to have them purchased at the time of the draw ( in the same transcaction) It did not allow the purchase of a third license, at that time, because the third person, had a valid license that would expire in a few weeks.

 

So I was only able to buy two (aforementioned) licenses during the actual draw transaction, and had to buy a third license in a separate transaction after the actual draw submission... Making all three hunters valid if drawn.

 

Many have noted the verbiage on the draw page to this effect: Hunters applying online for the Spring 2015 Elk and Antelope seasons may encounter an issue when attempting to input their hunting license information, but theres no need to worry. If you purchased a new license since the 2015 elk/antelope draw opened, your application form may auto-populate with your old license number, but it will be okay. Your new or renewed license number will be attached to your records and to your application, and your application will be accepted."

 

My question was merely if anyone had a cc hit and also experienced this error condition for one or more of their parties in the group during the actual draw transaction.

 

I have a subscription to hunters trailhead and plugged in your hunt. According to last years draw odds you made the bonus pass with your 3pts but only had a 47% chance of getting drawn in the bonus pass. You still should have had a good chance in the random draw as well, but there is a decent chance you may not have gotten drawn. Hope I'm wrong but it definitely wasn't a guaranteed tag.

 

Thanks for the details.. I thought it was slightly higher chances than that, when I just casually looked at the 2014 numbers... but you're probably right.. I was probably just not drawn.. no conspiracy..

[Vossy]

Just got a call from the infamous 602 942 3000.. Unfortunately it wasn't the call I was hoping for 'we lost your card and need your number for tag fees'.

 

It was about the overcharge for fees related to the draw and licenses, and processing the reversal.. As they were ending the call I asked about the state of the draw and if the charges were done, the person on the phone confirmed that all cards have been charged for the draw, for whatever that's worth...