Flatlander Report post Posted January 3, 2015 For guys to take a buck on the archery hunt and then hunt rifle the same year anyway or vice versa. I have a buddy who has started doing this every year. Makes me wonder, is this the exception or the rule? I quit hunting with him after doing every hunt together for 15 yrs cause of his shenanigans. But man, it still kind of chaps my backside a bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5guyshunting Report post Posted January 3, 2015 Sounds like poaching to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lancetkenyon Report post Posted January 3, 2015 Bad karma for sure. Makes me very picky in January to not hunt deer the rest of the year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Couescrazy33 Report post Posted January 3, 2015 pretty sure it's illegal. Ur only allows one deer per year if I'm not mistaken Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4Falls Report post Posted January 3, 2015 Who knows how common it is. Im sure your "buddy" isnt the only one. It is poaching if he gets two, and its illegal if hes out rilfe hunting after killing in January. I doubt theres a system in place to verify it even if he were to get pulled over. Smart of you to get away from him, most likely its not the only shady thing about him. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maverick351 Report post Posted January 3, 2015 Call it what you like but I wouldn't call him my buddy but I would call him in and reportIit. G+F will monitor this and catch him. Maybe I'm wrong but in my opinion knowing he's doing this illegally and not reporting it is just as bad as joining him in poaching. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
psebowhunter Report post Posted January 3, 2015 A man with no ethics and low moral fortitude. You know what they say, " Birds of a feather..........." Turn him in !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostTracker180 Report post Posted January 3, 2015 It is illegal! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flatlander Report post Posted January 3, 2015 Obviously, I know this is illegal and it's not something I support or participate in (obviously since I previously stated I don't hunt with this guy). I have reported people for game violations in the past and participated in several azgfd investigations, none of which have ever resulted in a prosecution. It just requires far more evidence than is typically available in these situations. For instance in this case; there is almost no way to prove he has already harvested a deer this year w/o him admitting it. Then, there I almost no way to prove he is hunting deer again w/o him admitting it again. If caught in the field w/a bow or rifle he can say he is hunting lions, coyotes, jack rabbits, coatimundi, chupacabra, etc. I think the only way for this to be prevented is to require folks to turn in their OTC tag in order to pickup their draw tag. That would not be 100% effective and I am not sure I want to go down that road. But I do think this is pretty common, I am a by the books guy and won't share a fire with others who aren't, but I have known several guys over the years who do this with little threat to getting caught. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antmo23 Report post Posted January 3, 2015 I know that happens a lot more than people think and I'm worried that if it continues, the GF is going to go to a draw for all archery tags. I've heard people defend it with "hey, the deer has a tag on it" but Ive never been tempted to take 2 in one year. It's just a matter of time before that take away the OTC archery deer tags. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstcoueswas110 Report post Posted January 3, 2015 growing up in rural az, i knew kids and kids dad who would hunt january, august, the rifle hunt, and december archery. shoot 2-4 deer a year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhuntin Report post Posted January 3, 2015 Don't any archery deer taken have to be reported to g and f ? I believe they do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRDATR Report post Posted January 3, 2015 Back in the 80's you could legally take a second deer, at least in Unit 29. But we have a lot more hunters today and populations have crashed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstcoueswas110 Report post Posted January 3, 2015 Don't any archery deer taken have to be reported to g and f ? I believe they do. not anymore i dont believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjvcon Report post Posted January 3, 2015 Bag limit is one per calendar year. Has been for some time. He's a thief ..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites