Red Rabbit Report post Posted March 30, 2007 I would suggest going to a lot of archery 3D shoots this summer, and shoot any smokers. The knowledge you learn on the smoker course about shooting in tough, tight lanes and targets will be worth more than the $10 arrow you break. Take the rangefinder out on your scouting trips and learn what 20 yards looks like in different lighting and terrain conditions, guess the distance to an object and then check with the rangefinder, Figure out why you were wrong. Work on being within 1-2 yards off. Practice shooting up and down hill., kneeling, sitting, squatting, standing on a stump, one foot, give yourself only 30 seconds to range, load, draw and shoot. Run 100 yards and then shoot while you're breathing hard. RR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Report post Posted March 30, 2007 Red, remember he's only 18--he probably doesn't breathe hard after running 100 yards! Kevin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZcoues_addict Report post Posted March 30, 2007 Check the FOC, arrow flight, and ultimately go with what performs better and it tuned for your setup. Usually you already have your arrows chosen based on their stiffness for your bow and poundage, where the FOC for the arrow will then determine your tip weight. Remember this should all be secondary to arrow flight! Go with what performs the best. For reference I shoot 360 grains and have NO problem with penetration at long range, but I also have a high kinetic energy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BowhuntCoues Report post Posted March 31, 2007 Congrads on the tag Younghunter. I shot a bull in unit 8 a few years back at 28yards with a 340 grain arrow and a 100 grain Snyper broadhead. The arrow blew completely through him. I believe most of it is good shot placement. If you put a hole through both lungs, they won't be going far. Also, be on the lookout for me and a couple buddies, we drew 7W archery bull tags too. PM me and maybe we can get together up there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hawkeye Report post Posted April 1, 2007 shot placement is the key. My daughter-in-law killed a real nice 7X6 bull last year. This was here first bull hunt and she only shot 53 pounds, and I made her up some 1913 aluminum arrows, with 100 grn. Muzzy heads. She made the shot at 35 yards and had a complete pass through. We found the bull about 70 yards from where it was shot. One thing I have found out over the years is, don't shoot more pounds than you can pull back smoothly and confortabely, and although you will be doing a lot of practice, take a target to camp and ,every day shoot a few arrows. This will keep your muscles limber, and let you know if something has happened to your bow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tcharchery Report post Posted April 3, 2007 Ok I was lucky enough to draw my first ever archery bull tag this season. Right now I am shooting 100 grain tips and my arrow, fletchings, glue, insert, knock and tip added together is around 385 grams. I have been told to try to get over 400 grams. My question is with me shooting at 60 pounds should I look for a heavier arrow or should I stay with the same arrow and go with a 125 grain broadhead? I do not want to mess up my opprotunity at a great bull if I am lucky enought to have the opprotunity. I would not change a thing. That set-up is more than plenty for elk. I shoot a 385 grain total weight arrow at 70 lbs. No problems on the last 2 elk hunts. Complete pass-throughs both years. My dilema for this year is picking the right broadhead. I used the 100 grain Sonic's the last 2 years without any problems, but would really like a little better blood trail. I'm thinking of trying Slicktriks or Wac'ems. Anything I can do to help you out, just shoot me a pm. Eddie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drgonzales Report post Posted April 6, 2007 Have any of you guys used Rocket Arrowheads. They mostly make mechanical broadheads but do have a set of fixed blade broadheads. I have had some pretty good results with them. With the 100 gr steelhead I was really able to zip my arrows exactly where I wanted them as opposed to some of the fixed blade, did some great damage on a bull last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azcouesandelk Report post Posted April 11, 2007 Alright I just had the poundage on my bow increased to 72 pounds and am shooting 390 grain arrows (including 100 grain tip). The arrows are flying really good as of now and I am learning to shoot at different targets on each shot Now I just need to practice practice practice and wait for that 370 bull to step out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azcouesandelk Report post Posted May 23, 2007 Bringing back up an old topic but I had my arrows weighed today and had my bow chronographed. With my Diamond Rapture with a 28 inch draw pulling between 70-72 pounds I am shooting 268.7 fps with 403 grain arrow/tip setup. I am very happy with the performance of my setup and am looking forward to September. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Basser15 Report post Posted May 23, 2007 Where are you shooting? If you want to meet out at Usery one day before or after work let me know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azcouesandelk Report post Posted May 23, 2007 Where are you shooting? If you want to meet out at Usery one day before or after work let me know. I was out at Usery from about 9 til 12 today than stopped by work to test the bow there. I will give you a call next time I can make it out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SilentButDeadly Report post Posted May 24, 2007 Now I just need to practice practice practice and wait for that 370 bull to step out I'd suggest shooting the first mature bull that comes into range. 260 doesn't look bad on the wall - and it looks ALOT better than nothing. As for broadhead/arrow, 75g Muzzy 3 blade, xforce carbon 300, did these elk in: 60 yards 40 yards Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dave Report post Posted May 24, 2007 Younghunter, Sounds like your rig will produce around 65KE. I agree with Neo L. on the fixed blade but would at least shoot the 100gr. whether 3 or 4 blade and it would give better FOC. Just try them. I have heart burn with guys that want to shoot elk with a mechanical and only 65KE. Sometimes guys vision can't tell the difference between broadside and 1/4ed, and sometimes the target is moving. Like you surveyed all the trees in the area before the shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azcouesandelk Report post Posted May 24, 2007 Right now I am debating whether to go with the Wac em 100 grains or the slick trick 100 grain magnums. I am really leaning toward the slick tricks because I have heard so many good reports about them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Basser15 Report post Posted May 24, 2007 Think I'm switching to the 100 grain Wac 'ems this year. Haven't been too impressed with the Muzzys so figured it's a good time for a change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites