carpcody Report post Posted December 18, 2014 Pm sent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
el diablo Report post Posted December 25, 2014 Since when is a DL or CCW required for a private sale? I don't understand why people add requirements that aren't even required by law. Seems like a backwards step and only encourages stricter AZ gun laws. Free bump and good luck with the sale. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MRL1984 Report post Posted December 25, 2014 Since when is a DL or CCW required for a private sale? I don't understand why people add requirements that aren't even required by law. Seems like a backwards step and only encourages stricter AZ gun laws. Free bump and good luck with the sale. Whoa ease up there with the bashing. You can do person to person transfer to in state residents. Hence the reason for flashing an AZ ID. CCW is security against prohibited possessor. If anything your Willie Nillie sell to whoever is the reason anti gun folks are going for sticter private party sales. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZLance Report post Posted December 26, 2014 Since when is a DL or CCW required for a private sale? I don't understand why people add requirements that aren't even required by law. Seems like a backwards step and only encourages stricter AZ gun laws. Free bump and good luck with the sale. +100 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
el diablo Report post Posted December 26, 2014 Since when is a DL or CCW required for a private sale? I don't understand why people add requirements that aren't even required by law. Seems like a backwards step and only encourages stricter AZ gun laws. Free bump and good luck with the sale.Whoa ease up there with the bashing. You can do person to person transfer to in state residents. Hence the reason for flashing an AZ ID. CCW is security against prohibited possessor. If anything your Willie Nillie sell to whoever is the reason anti gun folks are going for sticter private party sales. I did not mean to sound like I was bashing and appologize if I came off that way. I even sent the post to my dad who is lookin for a 45. I just don't agree with it. I can see prefering to sell to someone with a CCW to cover ur own butt, but requiring it is way over kill. You don't even have to have a CCW to carry a gun concealed why should someone have to even have one to buy one privately. Half the reason people buy privately is to avoid the paper trail. Why would someone choose to create more of a paper trail then even our own government requires. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
el diablo Report post Posted December 26, 2014 I understand that thought process however, the billof sale or CCW is not required. He11. You could have sold it at a yard sale two yrs ago. Simple answer. What it comes down to is a criminal that wants to obtain a gun illegally will obtain it. I mean he11, all he has to do is get a buddy that has the CCW to but it from u for him or go to the yard sale I spoke of. That's y all these stupid gun control laws keep failing to pass. Why should we encourage them. You're only limiting potential buyers that won't buy from u simply because they don't want the paper trail. We fight to not have these laws passed but then turn around and apply our own unneeded regulations. The bill of sale does not protect you. Who ever you may have sold it to could have sold it 4 times since. The bill of sale is only proof that you did indeed sell it to that person and in my opinion could me more self incriminating than anything. Sorry just rambling. Have had a few Xmas beverages. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
el diablo Report post Posted December 26, 2014 Agin good luck and free bump ttt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoghntr Report post Posted December 26, 2014 I do not have to sell to a CCW, however, I need proof that the private sale was made to an AZ resident for the reason stated above. As far as a paper trail, I purchased the gun at a store and filled out the required Form 4473 and satisfied the background check. If a private sale was made without any paper trail on my part, i.e., Bill of Sale, and the gun was stolen from you and used in the commission of a crime, who do you think they will trace the gun back to when the criminal says he bought if from someone off the street? The Bill of Sale protects me and you have proof that you legally purchased the weapon. +1. also quite handy for the buyer when seller files as stolen and commits insurance fraud! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MRL1984 Report post Posted December 26, 2014 I understand that thought process however, the billof sale or CCW is not required. He11. You could have sold it at a yard sale two yrs ago. Simple answer. What it comes down to is a criminal that wants to obtain a gun illegally will obtain it. I mean he11, all he has to do is get a buddy that has the CCW to but it from u for him or go to the yard sale I spoke of. That's y all these stupid gun control laws keep failing to pass. Why should we encourage them. You're only limiting potential buyers that won't buy from u simply because they don't want the paper trail. We fight to not have these laws passed but then turn around and apply our own unneeded regulations. The bill of sale does not protect you. Who ever you may have sold it to could have sold it 4 times since. The bill of sale is only proof that you did indeed sell it to that person and in my opinion could me more self incriminating than anything. Sorry just rambling. Have had a few Xmas beverages.Bottom line he is the seller and he can makes the rules. So move on as you're not buying it anyway. I don't think his requirement is going to be the keystone in the passing of any gun legislation. I have seen plenty of other folks with the same requirements. Stop turning this into a pissing contest in anothers ad. It will either sell or not. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
