Siwash Report post Posted December 12, 2014 Wish I would have taken a more detailed pic, but see attached for the 2-4' high scrub plant that is found thick intermixed with Manzanita south of the Mogollon Rim. It has light green leaves that are about 1x.5" with multiple sharp points. Noticed it most prominent on mesas and on ridge slopes, probably 5,500-6,500' in elevation. Anyone know what it's called? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesPursuit Report post Posted December 12, 2014 It has light green leaves that are about 1x.5" with multiple sharp points If multiple sharp points is equivalent to 2 thorns coming out together from the stem, you might be looking at Mimosa aculeaticarpa biuncifera or Wait-a-minute Bush. If there is one thorn at a time it's likely a species from the genus Acacia sp. Similar species are illustrated in the link below. http://www.arizonensis.org/sonoran/fieldguide/plantae/mimosoideae.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Siwash Report post Posted December 12, 2014 Thanks, looked at both of those and believe it is something else, a few of the shrubs did have dried fruit that almost resembled blueberries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesPursuit Report post Posted December 12, 2014 Without a detailed photo it's tough but 2 more families come to mind with thorns in manzanita habitat, check out the Rhamnaceae http://www.arizonensis.org/sonoran/fieldguide/plantae/rhamnaceae.html and Ulmaceae http://www.arizonensis.org/sonoran/fieldguide/plantae/ulmaceae.html species. Congrats on the bull! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Siwash Report post Posted December 12, 2014 This picture makes it look nice and friendly, and it isn't, but I think you got it: http://www.nazflora.org/Ceanothus_greggii.htm Thanks, and I actually took a spike, my friend took the raghorn and I got to help him pack it out, antlers down, because it was so thick with cedars, manzy and everything else that I never would have made with them up, at least not without getting hung up every 5 feet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesPursuit Report post Posted December 12, 2014 Haha well then congrats on 2 bulls! The ceonothus is pretty friendly when it isn't bone dry, don't usually think of it as a thorny species but it can be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunterjohnny Report post Posted December 12, 2014 http://www.arizonensis.org/sonoran/fieldguide/plantae/quercus_turb.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Siwash Report post Posted December 13, 2014 http://www.arizonensis.org/sonoran/fieldguide/plantae/quercus_turb.html That's actually it, thank you. Feel like a goofball as I have been in live oak before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunterjohnny Report post Posted December 14, 2014 I was just up there and grabbed a handful when I slipped so it was fresh in my mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesPursuit Report post Posted December 14, 2014 I have no problem being wrong but the "multiple sharp points" threw me off thinking of actual thorns! Good call Hunterjohnny! Very common and from the photo it sure fits the bill. Should have caught the leaf description. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IA Born Report post Posted December 16, 2014 Yep. I would have said shrub live oak or barberry based on your description and original pic. Looks like shrub live oak to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites