Jim White Tripler-Review

[flagcoueskiller]

Amanda, you have the Zeiss Classic 10x40's The older ones with the diopter where the tripod adapter should be! I think I saw a pic of yours and I have the same ones. I love them, use the velcro straps on the tripod, works fine. I wanted to confirm that you said the Jim White Tripler works with those binos?

 

Thanks,

 

Joe

[coueshunter]

I know Doug - Redrabbit is going to have an extensive review, but for now I can provide some review info. I used the tripler side by side with my swarovski doubler. The tripler in daytime use was alot brighter & substantially easier to put on my 15x56 and 10x42's than the doubler. I really like with the tripler you dont have to unscrew the eyepiece like you have to with the doubler. I havent used the tripler in low light situations yet, but overall so far it is much better than my doubler and the price tag is alot less than the doubler.............thanks.............Allen.........

[CouesWhitetail]

Yes Joe, that tripler works on the zeiss classics. Fits very nicely.

 

Thank Allen for the comparison.

 

Amanda

[COOSEFAN]

I know Doug - Redrabbit is going to have an extensive review, but for now I can provide some review info. I used the tripler side by side with my swarovski doubler. The tripler in daytime use was alot brighter & substantially easier to put on my 15x56 and 10x42's than the doubler. I really like with the tripler you dont have to unscrew the eyepiece like you have to with the doubler. I havent used the tripler in low light situations yet, but overall so far it is much better than my doubler and the price tag is alot less than the doubler.............thanks.............Allen.........

dam...there goes more money I don't have, spent on things I REALLY don't need..........but now I WANT IT, and I GOTTA HAVE IT! Thanks for review Allen, I will tell my wife YOU talked me into it JIM>

[Hunterdan]

I know Doug - Redrabbit is going to have an extensive review, but for now I can provide some review info. I used the tripler side by side with my swarovski doubler. The tripler in daytime use was alot brighter & substantially easier to put on my 15x56 and 10x42's than the doubler. I really like with the tripler you dont have to unscrew the eyepiece like you have to with the doubler. I havent used the tripler in low light situations yet, but overall so far it is much better than my doubler and the price tag is alot less than the doubler.............thanks.............Allen.........

dam...there goes more money I don't have, spent on things I REALLY don't need..........but now I WANT IT, and I GOTTA HAVE IT! Thanks for review Allen, I will tell my wife YOU talked me into it JIM>

 

I agree, Now I have to explain to the wife why I need another toy. After each I swear to her that is it.

[firstcoueswas80]

can i buy the tripler now, even though i dont have any binoculars

[grizzly]

I have the Minox 15X58 and am very depressed to hear that these wont work with the tripler, any way to modify the tripler to fit these binos or plans for Jim to make one that will fit?

[CouesWhitetail]

Actually, yes, Jim said he could modify it so it would work with those Minox 15x58s. However, it would increase the cost of the tripler. you can call him directly to ask him about it if you like. 928-635-5316

 

Amanda

[Red Rabbit]

The Jim White Tripler comes in an unpadded camo cordura case with a flap fastened with velcro. There is no belt loop on the case. The flap has a plastic cap in which a lens cloth is stuffed. The cap fits into the clamp when the flap is closed, but is sized large enough that it rests against the end of the lens tube and will not fit down into the recess of the lens tube and rub against the lens. In the case, it weighs 7 oz on my digital fish scale.

 

I tested the tripler using a pair of Leica Duovid 10+15x50 binoculars, and a Cabelas 20-60x60mm spotter which I purchased in the late 1980's and believe them to be Redfield Regal IVs with the Cabelas badge.

 

The optics were tested on a homemade resolution chart of the letters aaeeoocc and 111 of various sizes. This was stapled to a cardboard box and set out down the street at a distance of 65 yards.

 

The tripler attaches easily to one eyepiece of the binoculars by squeezing the two tabs together to enlarge the ring and fit over the eyepiece. Due to the clamp attaching to one side of the tripler tube and the larger size in the binocular eyepiece, the centerline axis of the tripler does not line up with the axis of the bino lens tube/center of the exit pupil. The tripler is slightly off center. This may result in an eclipsed view, but the tripler angle may be adjusted easily by squeezing the clamp so a full field of view is given. I noticed that the tripler is not in the same line as the bino lens tube when so adjusted (i.e. it is clamped on a a slight angle). Different binos may have different eyepiece diameters, so this effect may vary.

 

 

I compared the Duovids set at 10x with the tripler attached (30x total) against the spotter set at 30x. With the bino/tripler, I could distinguish the e's distinctly in the 4th smallest set of letters. In particular, I keyed on being able to distinguish the horizontal line of the e. The 3rd smallest set of 1's could be distinguished as separate and can detect the top cap and bottom of the 1 clearly.

With the spotter at 30x, I could see the 2nd smallest set of e's clearly. The 4th set of letters are 4.0mm tall and the 2nd set are 2.8mm tall, or 40% smaller.

 

With the Douvid set at 15x and the tripler attached (45x total), I could discern the 2nd smallest set of e's and the 1's of the 2nd set. I could see separate 1's in the top, smallest set of letters, but could not tell the top and bottom of the 1 clearly.

With the spotter set at a comparable 45X, I could see both the e's and 1's of the smallest set clearly. The 1st set of letters are 2.3mm tall, or 18% smaller than the 2nd set.

 

Using just the Duovids set at 15x, no tripler, I could discern the e's of the 7th set of letters, and the 1's of the 6th set. The 1's in the 5th set appeared to run together.

 

After sunset, I tested how long I could tell the e's on the bottom left, 9th set. Sunset was at 6:58 this evening and the sky was clear. With the Duovids set at 10x and tripler attached, I lost detail of the e's at 7:10pm. At 7:15, I could not distinguish the largest letter on the right side of the chart. The 9th set, bottom left was readable using the spotter set at 30x until 7:15.

 

I noticed that the spotter appeared brighter during daylight than the tripler assembly. The view through the spotter was also noticably sharper. The tripler setup had about 20% less field of view than my spotter when set at comparable powers. Different binos and spotter mey give a different FOV. Also noticed was that the focusing of the bino with the tripler attached was more critical/touchy to the amount of focus dial rotation, than when just using the bino alone.

 

I did not notice any tinting of colors different than the Duovids transmitted. Nor did I see any color fringing when looking at pine needle clusters against the sky.

 

In looking through the spotter and tripler, I held a cupped hand over the off eye rather than squint. I also used a towell draped over my capped head and optics which helped cut ambient light from the side and really helps with seeing more acutely.

 

 

Doug~RR

[stanley]

Great write-up Doug! Should help some of the folks who are trying to decide whether to make the purchase or not.

 

Thanks!!

 

S.

[Coues 'n' Sheep]

Doug, that is a great review! It sounds like that tripler might be a great tool for the right applications, if you are only losing a few minutes of light. Maybe it would be super handy on backpack hunts but still not quite as handy as a good quality Spotter when you can afford the weight?? What applications do you feel at this product will fit into your style of hunting?

 

 

Thanks,

 

CnS

[flagcoueskiller]

Hey Doug, thanks for the review. I'm sold. If I shoot another buck that's smaller than I thought I'm going to consider repositioning the barrel, towards the shooter.

[DesertBull]

I was wondering if a person could add some sort of shim or spacer between the spring steel of the clamp (where is attaches to body) and the body of the tripler which would allow the tripler to center on the eyepiece better and possibly work with my Minox 15's? The problem I had when trying to fit the device onto my eyepiece was that it was way off center and unuseable.

[CouesWhitetail]

Thanks for the review Doug! sounds like perhaps it needs an adjustment to fit those leica's perfectly?

 

Jeff, didn't you talk to Jim White at the ADA banquet about that? He told me he could make an adjustment to the tripler so it would fit Minox 15x's.

 

And just an FYI - Coosefan will be doing a review of the tripler also. And I think he will be able to try it out on a couple diff binos and also compare it to the swaro doubler. That should really help folks get a good idea of whether they want this tripler or not.

 

Amanda

[COOSEFAN]

Awesome reveiw Doug.....very detailed and informative! It sure seems like there should be an easy fix to the alignment problem.....I know Jim W. said he was confident he could alter the Clamp feature to allow it's use on Minox....I'm sure he could do it for the Leica's as well......we'll know soon what he comes up with. I am also going to do a reveiw....I'm sure it won't be as detailed as Doug's but it will address some different points that will be helpful to those of you with different optics. I am gathering up several brands and styles of binos to show how it fits and performs on each and also I will put it up against the Swaro doubler for comparison. I will be headin' out to the Coues woods this weekend, and will have my review posted soon! Thanks, JIM>