lancetkenyon Report post Posted October 2, 2014 I love H414, but I use it for smaller case capacity loads, like my .22-250 and .250 Ackley. It is a close burn rate to H4350/IMR4350, so I do not see any reason it would not work with .270. And I can confirm it is very temperature stable. I have shot it from 4° to 110°+ with no point of impact change from what my ballistics calculated. And it is a ball type powder, so it meters well, and is very consistent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike S Report post Posted October 3, 2014 For what it's worth W760 and H414 are the same powder. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KYLES96 Report post Posted October 11, 2014 Im pretty sure the 130 grain is the preferred bullet for the 270, at least that's what I've always been told and that's the bullet 80% of factory ammo is sold with. I see you want 1000 ft. pounds of energy at the Hail Mary ranges but I know by experience the 130 will drop a big Muley at over 500 without issues. I see you use the 4350 as I do as well (53 grs. 3000 fps.), My dad always used IMR 4320 (50 grs) 3000 fps. I reload the Nosler Ballistic Tips and the Sierra Game Kings in 130 gr. Winchester large rifle primer and seated just off the landings. Remember, the reloading books are all very different, I have some that my dad gave me from the 70s and 80s. Their max loads are not even listed anymore. You've got to wonder how a Sierra book and a Hodgdon book will show how to obtain 3000 fps with the same powder and bullet but have two different powder amounts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sonof12 Report post Posted October 21, 2014 My dad has a Howa 270 and the deer load of choice is a 130 gn ballistic tip in remington brass and primers with 53 gns of H414. Shoots about 3000 fps into nice clover prints. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke-BE Report post Posted October 21, 2014 So my up date on my gun is that the w760 is pumping the speed. Nosler book most accurate load for the 760 is their max load of 53.0, books says 3018 fps but I'm cranking out 3060 fps with that load. Huh all my slow burning powders can't get anywhere but my fast 760 burning powder goes even faster. I went out Friday to sight in my new vortex scope and checking the accuracy of that round. I was shooting 1" to 1-1/4" grouping. Should I stick with that and maybe back off a grain of powder and see if I can get a better grouping??? About the 130 grain yes I've heard that is the prime round. But I think times are changing. That 140 grain accubound shoots a B.C of 0.496 while the best B.C. For the 130 grain is shooting 0.435 plus a little more knock down power in which I'm searching for those 400 -500 yard shots. But the 150 grain accubond Long Range has a B.C. Of 0.625 and groups very well. However I've (read) on a few sites they all have the same problem of not mushrooming within 400 yards. A quite of bit of hunters said that it just past right through them and were displeased with it. One guy called up Nosler and they said that you shoot the deer to close. ????? Ok??? Most of them were saying just stick with the regular accubond. Like I said I read this somewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STOMP442 Report post Posted October 21, 2014 Better check your facts on Nosler before you pick a bullet based on BC numbers. The standard 140 accubond has an actual BC closer to .465 vs the advertised .496. The accubond long range is even worse. The litz measured BC is .543 vs .625 advertised. If you are using noslers numbers for calculations of energy your going to be a ways off. The best bullet going for the 270 in my opinion is the berger 130 classic hunter. With its hybrid design it boasts an actual BC of .497 which is higher than the 140 vld and only .031 lower than the 150 vld plus it can be driven much faster than the heavier bullets. Using standard conditions this bullet will maintain 1000ft lbs of energy out to 665 yards at a muzzle velocity of 3000fps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke-BE Report post Posted October 21, 2014 Better check your facts on Nosler before you pick a bullet based on BC numbers. The standard 140 accubond has an actual BC closer to .465 vs the advertised .496. The accubond long range is even worse. The litz measured BC is .543 vs .625 advertised. If you are using noslers numbers for calculations of energy your going to be a ways off. The best bullet going for the 270 in my opinion is the berger 130 classic hunter. With its hybrid design it boasts an actual BC of .497 which is higher than the 140 vld and only .031 lower than the 150 vld plus it can be driven much faster than the heavier bullets. Using standard conditions this bullet will maintain 1000ft lbs of energy out to 665 yards at a muzzle velocity of 3000fps Stomp 442 I'm only quoting from what I have read and off the Nosler site. I know I'm Butchering my own thread here but how does one know that? Are there other 3 rd parties doing the measures? Or are we able to do the measures of the B.C. Ourselves? I never really messed with much of that other than reading it in a book. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STOMP442 Report post Posted October 22, 2014 Yes there are books out there. Applied ballistics for long range shooting by bryan litz is an outstanding resource with tons of useful information. Bryan is also a member over on longrangehunting.com and has posted data sheets on numerous bullets he has tested including the new Nosler accubond long range. He has a very in depth and scientific approach to measuring BC and he does so over long range by pulling the trigger himself. I highly recommend the book just for the accurate bullet data alone. There have also been various articles written about over inflated BCs in publications like varmint hunter magazine where the air force academy has tested numerous bullets as well with similar results. To summarize Nosler bullets are the most over estimated of all major manufacturers as they prefer computer calculations and extreme velocities to determine their bc. The new Nosler long range bullets are very good and a definite improvement over the standard but you can't trust what is written on the box or online. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lancetkenyon Report post Posted October 22, 2014 Bergers are very close to published BCs, because they actually worked with Bryan Litz to develop the BCs. On most ballistic apps for phone (like SHooter and Strelok Pro)or JBM Ballistics, they have Bryan Litz's BCs in the library of bullets. Making the charts much more accurate that inputting some published BCs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke-BE Report post Posted November 7, 2014 Thanks for all the help and advice. I finally got my gun dialed in after many many rounds. The w760 was the powder that got me the speed. But at 3060 fps I was doing a 1-1/4" grouping at 100 yards. Not very good. I took a grain off and dropped me to 3000 fps and hitting one inch groupings at 200 yards. Sighted it in for 300 yard and was smacking center of the 300 yard plate. Took it out to 500 hundred yards and adjusted the Moa and hit the plate and got that gong!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lancetkenyon Report post Posted November 7, 2014 Awesome. Now go kill something! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
