Federal Law Enforcement Officers

[Pine Donkey]

I am starting this thread to avoid hijacking a previous one. This is not a place to trash individual officers, but rather discuss their changing mission as dictated by out current administration.

 

I know quite a few Federal LEO's. These are good people who serve their country by their choice of careers. They are part of our communities, their children are in our schools, they live in our neighborhood and many will share our campfires during hunting season. Most every Federal LEO I have met is a good, honest, dedicated person. (I know there are bad ones, and they need to be removed and held accountable for their actions. That is a topic for a different post). Some are arrogant, some are a bit jaded, but the vast majority are top quality individuals. I am happy to call several of them friends.

 

These officers work for many different agencies including Border Patrol, Customs, Forest Service, BLM, U.S. Marshals, and numerous other agencies. In many cases they are the law enforcement arm of an agency that does not have law enforcement as a major part of their mission. This is the case with BLM and Forest Service LEOs. They serve different function than your forest 'rangers'. These individuals are certified peace officers who have graduated from one of the Federal Law enforcement academies.

 

I have spent many hour in discussion with some of these individuals. They are good people. Often they have many frustrations with the political direction and agenda of the upper levels of their agencies. This sentiments have been increasing with our current administration. These officers often feel they are prevented from doing their job due to the policies and directives coming out of Washington. The situation is far worse when they are involved in an incident that draws the attention of the media in politically sensitive issues. More than once, the official released story does not resemble reality, but is a nice PC representation. Not complying with the 'official story' has ended the careers of some officers, and left many others with stress and a lack of job satisfaction.

 

As a parallel to these dedicated LEOs I offer those who fight our forest fires. The individuals on the ground who fight the fires are good people who work their butts off protecting out forests and property. However, they work in a system that has an agenda (no logging, reintroduced wolves, wilderness areas) that prevent them from being as effective as they could be. I appreciate what these fighters do, while I dispise the system they often work in.

 

I have very similar feelings about federal LEOs. This is a group of good people, working at the bottom of a very messed up system of liberal, agenda driven, bureaucracy. To take care of this problem, cut the head off the snake. Vote this November, and talk to others that vote. We need to change the direction of this nation from the top, rather than attacking the bottom.

[lancetkenyon]

Very well said. I agree 100%.

[Explorer]

If you treat someone with respect, they should treat you with respect and vis versa. I always act respectful towards law enforcement. Even if I think they are in the wrong. Usually they relax and appreciate you letting them do their job and that in turn helps you out. Remember it's your word against theirs and they are the ones filling out the report. The judge reads their report and if it states you were a dumba## the judge will most likely treat you like one as well. Knowing your rights and being a jerk because you got caught are two different things. If people understood that they might have a better opinion of LE.

[coues7]

I believe that each LEO deserves to return home each day to their families the same way they went to work, BUT the sooner everyone understands that they (LEO's) are NOT your friends the better off you'll be.....our country is a police state. Some day these LEO's (good or bad) will serve as the brown shirts did to Hitler. Their allegiance is not to citizens, but to their own "brotherhood". They will lie, steal, cheat and kill to protect their own.....take that to the bank.

[Guest wdenike]

Pine Donkey,

 

 

This should be interesting. How ever I think you should throw a little wider loop, and include all LEO. I can't speak for the FED's as my experience was with regular municipality's. Thirty six years ago I went to one of these academies. And half way through made a decision the attitudes of the recruits were not what I wanted to spend my working life with. This cancer has continued to get worse through the years. Also has really took a turn for the worse ten fold when ya add a gooberment with an agenda. There are fine human beings still in the profession, caring about their citizens, and the youth in their communities. But they are swimming against the current. I personally know officers that are gritting their teeth. Trying to just hold on for their last two to four years to retire, and if it was not for the retirement would run from the occupation. I have been told that in this day and age these recruits would wear the badge for free as long as they had the power trip. And these are the ones that will trample the constitution when the time comes to confiscate our fire arms. Along with simple abuse of the position. I can not speak for the military recruits. But have been told that we are in trouble there also. Domestic terrorist sound familiar? The new definition will be the constitutionalist that wants gooberment out of our lives. They will brain wash these kids to believe doing what they tell them is right. I hope you are right that it can be corrected at the top by voting. But as with academia, our leo, and military is heading way of course. Sure hope we can right the ship.

 

 

Take care, Willie

[Snapshot]

Don't even get me started on the Fed's.

 

The DOD handing out surplus military weaponry to LEO's. Sure,......Let's give all the Barney Fife's a grenade launcher.

[firstcoueswas80]

Never mind, not worth it.

[Explorer]

There are pieces of crap in every group. Wether it's hunters,hippies,atheists or Christians. That's why I enjoy living in a small town. Sure there are idiots, but everyone knows who they are.

[MRL1984]

Never mind, not worth it.

Casey I think you summed up my feelings as well.

[firstcoueswas80]

 

Never mind, not worth it.

Casey I think you summed up my feelings as well.

Haters gonna hate.....

[AZLance]

I agree with all the negative sentiments towards the feds, and I'm one of them!

[Guest wdenike]

" Not complying with the 'official story' has ended the careers of some officers, and left many others with stress and a lack of job satisfaction."

 

 

 

 

Purging people that serve????? Na that's not the change we were looking for. Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. We can all just move along, nothing to any of this nonsense.

 

 

Take care, Willie

[Non-Typical Solutions]

One person that I would love to have standing by me when all hockey sticks break loose is my good buddy Chad......transferred to Colorado a year ago. Heck of a good guy, tough as nails, helped me for two years in the wrestling room, great role model for my son and my athletes............LEO.........don't have a bad thing to say about him.....not one....