Found dead bull in 4b

[DesertBull]

The archery season does not close until Thursday evening. I don't think he needs to get G&F involved until the seasons closes. He can tag his bull if he finds it during the season and take possession of it.

[bonecollector]

 

Haha I'm not asking for your advice or guidance. As much as you think I care I really don't. Nowhere in the law does it state that I have to call game and fish If I find a dead elk. You may call them if you want but I don't want to and will not call them. I'm not going to make them money by giving them the chance to auction it off. As you have no respect for me I have no respect for you and really don't care about anything you have to say about this post or about this elk. You seem slightly confused about the law so don't try and educate me when I don't ask for your education and then you try and educate me incorrectly. It is not against the law for me to not call the game and fish about a dead elk. And even if it were guess what? I still wouldn't call them.

 

Ok, I'm uneducated on breaking the law, but during my child's hunter safety course, provided by GandF they asked what are you supposed to do if you come along a wounded or deceased animal? Answer was to call Game and Fish and report the location. They also asked it no be moved so that they may investigate the animal as it lays. So if it is not in the regulations, why would they teach our children and new hunters this rule? "You seem slightly confused about the law so don't try and educate me when I "didn't" ask for your education.........". Grammer is tough sometimes huh?

So if you shot a animal and couldnt find it, you would want somebody that did find it to report to G&F so you would have to buy it from them? It is perfectly legal for the owner of this bull to go wrap his or hers tag around it as long as its still in the dates of the hunt.

[out2hunt]

My son years ago was riding on the back of the quad with me on a whitetail hunt. We had stopped to have lunch and he played while he was supposed to be eating, so it comes time to leave and he still has half his sandwich. He tells me he will finish the sandwich at the next stop, but on the way down a lengthly dirt road I noticed him toss something aside. I looked back and noticed him trying to eat the sandwich under his helmet. It was at that point I realized he had thrown his sandwich bag on the side of the road. I drove about 3/4 of a mile down the road and stopped the atv. Matthew admitted to throwing his plastic bag aside after I asked him what had happened. I turned off the atv and told him to go get the bag, I would wait there for his return. Watching him through my binos, I watched his little body walk all the way back and he found the bag. Upon his return i asked him if he would ever litter again, his answer was no. Lessons like this have to be taught so that he knows right from wrong. Example-----If he and I were driving in the woods and saw a bobcat strolling across a log, I would not stop the car and jump out to retrieve my rifle from the car to shoot the bobcat from the road. That would teach him that road hunting is ok. In my opinion, that is not hunting--just plain killing. Just an example

[Guest wdenike]

:o OVER AND OUT!!!

 

 

 

 

Take care, Willie

[out2hunt]

 

 

Haha I'm not asking for your advice or guidance. As much as you think I care I really don't. Nowhere in the law does it state that I have to call game and fish If I find a dead elk. You may call them if you want but I don't want to and will not call them. I'm not going to make them money by giving them the chance to auction it off. As you have no respect for me I have no respect for you and really don't care about anything you have to say about this post or about this elk. You seem slightly confused about the law so don't try and educate me when I don't ask for your education and then you try and educate me incorrectly. It is not against the law for me to not call the game and fish about a dead elk. And even if it were guess what? I still wouldn't call them.

Ok, I'm uneducated on breaking the law, but during my child's hunter safety course, provided by GandF they asked what are you supposed to do if you come along a wounded or deceased animal? Answer was to call Game and Fish and report the location. They also asked it no be moved so that they may investigate the animal as it lays. So if it is not in the regulations, why would they teach our children and new hunters this rule? "You seem slightly confused about the law so don't try and educate me when I "didn't" ask for your education.........". Grammer is tough sometimes huh?

So if you shot a animal and couldnt find it, you would want somebody that did find it to report to G&F so you would have to buy it from them? It is perfectly legal for the owner of this bull to go wrap his or hers tag around it as long as its still in the dates of the hunt.

 

If we were in this ugly situation due to weather, poor shot placement, or just plain dumb luck, the first entity I would call would be Gand F to notify them of the situation, possible whereabouts, and efforts to retrieve. If they or another hunter were to find it and report it, they would at least have my information for contact, and within the hunt dates the right to tag my animal. Outside the hunt dates, different regulations take precedence. I pay to play like the rest of you, I just choose to abide by the rules.

 

out2hunt,

 

Boy our gooberment is on their knees nightly praying for billions just like you. If you can't see what they have become you would have enjoyed the apple also. Although we are supposed to abide by the rules of our leaders. We are not supposed to blindly follow them straight to heck. I can appreciate ya wanting to teach the young one the right way. But there is no law that says it is mandatory to call asap when an animal is found. Now our gooberment is slowly making the bed in which it will inevitably have to lie in. LIEING, STEALING, CORRUPTNESS, ABORTION, TAKING GOD OUT OF THE COUNTRY. The list is long, but I think you get the drift. I AM FROM THE GOOBERMENT AND HERE TO HELP YOU. Has never been a truthful statement. If this is where you are at. When Hitler would have told ya it was time for the shower. I guess ya would have smiled picked your bar of soap and jumped in. Wake up man!!!!!

 

 

Take care, Willie

Willie,

I appreciate your distaste for our current administration, I share it along with you. As for your shower comment, I do not believe the Jewish people had a choice whether or not to get in the showers. Between the burning of elk comment and your mention of the holocaust, I am left wondering why I continue this conversation. On to homework, PSY357 will not wait any longer. Good evening fellow members of CWT.

[hoghntr]

I know of a wounded cow once upon a time that was reported and few days later a g & f person showed up with rifle in hand and walked to wounded x3 days, cow and g & f guy allowed hunter/reporter to use his gun to shoot it then when hunter/reporter asked about meat the g & f person said leave it be.

 

Out2hunt that is gr8 you have your kid pick up his own trash but this is not quite the same. if teaching your son that helping another hunter find his prize he may still be looking for is a crime then,, well,, ??? im confused about every single one of your comments. Kinda saddened that you would wanna hurt someone more who most likely already has broken heart from losing that bull. I really hope that you and your son never have this happen to you.

[out2hunt]

I know of a wounded cow once upon a time that was reported and few days later a g & f person showed up with rifle in hand and walked to wounded x3 days, cow and g & f guy allowed hunter/reporter to use his gun to shoot it then when hunter/reporter asked about meat the g & f person said leave it be.

 

Out2hunt that is gr8 you have your kid pick up his own trash but this is not quite the same. if teaching your son that helping another hunter find his prize he may still be looking for is a crime then,, well,, ??? im confused about every single one of your comments. Kinda saddened that you would wanna hurt someone more who most likely already has broken heart from losing that bull. I really hope that you and your son never have this happen to you.

So if BC777 reported it and the hunter checked with GandF, the bull would not be allowed to be tagged? If people were more diligent about following this practice, everyone would know who to check with first. WHAT IF the hunter in question is not a member of this site, but does call in to GandF to see if they have any info.......answer is no because BC777 thinks he has the right to be that hunter's only savior? If it is reported, the hunter stands a better shot of retrieval with GandF than without. BC777 is trying to help, I get it. I just don't think he is doing all he can to help. IMO harboring these bad feelings about wildlife law enforcement is hindering his ability to make the right decision.

[bonecollector777]

After reading out2hunts random comments and examples that have nothing to do with this situation I realize he must be slightly intoxicated or mentally handicapped. Either of the two let's cut him some slack and ignore his stupidity from here on out. Anyone I know that tries teaching laws that aren't actually laws and then tries to make someone look bad for helping someone find a wounded elk isn't worth paying attention to. This same situation has come up multiple times in years past. Lots of animals have been found by hunters that were sick at themselves for not finding their wounded animal. Other times no hunter came forward and the animal laid there unclaimed. If I recall this is the first situation where someone was crazy enough or drunk enough to try and make the original poster the bad guy. Haha and for some reason I didn't find it surprising that I was the first one to come under fire for helping out. Like I have said in the past I can be nice or I can be mean but either way someone will find a way to try and make me look like the bad guy. I love it! Keep the idiocy coming..

[rageinthesage]

 

 

Haha I'm not asking for your advice or guidance. As much as you think I care I really don't. Nowhere in the law does it state that I have to call game and fish If I find a dead elk. You may call them if you want but I don't want to and will not call them. I'm not going to make them money by giving them the chance to auction it off. As you have no respect for me I have no respect for you and really don't care about anything you have to say about this post or about this elk. You seem slightly confused about the law so don't try and educate me when I don't ask for your education and then you try and educate me incorrectly. It is not against the law for me to not call the game and fish about a dead elk. And even if it were guess what? I still wouldn't call them.

 

Ok, I'm uneducated on breaking the law, but during my child's hunter safety course, provided by GandF they asked what are you supposed to do if you come along a wounded or deceased animal? Answer was to call Game and Fish and report the location. They also asked it no be moved so that they may investigate the animal as it lays. So if it is not in the regulations, why would they teach our children and new hunters this rule? "You seem slightly confused about the law so don't try and educate me when I "didn't" ask for your education.........". Grammer is tough sometimes huh?

So if you shot a animal and couldnt find it, you would want somebody that did find it to report to G&F so you would have to buy it from them? It is perfectly legal for the owner of this bull to go wrap his or hers tag around it as long as its still in the dates of the hunt.

It has to be recovered within 48 hours, if it is not regardless of when the hunt ends is considered lost game and belongs to the state of Arizona, that being said my hats off to bc777, archery hunting is tough these elk are extremely tough to bring down even with a good shot and also how hard it is to draw a tag these days who ever shot this bull deserves it and should not have to buy it at auction.

[Guest 300ultramag.]

The cards are 3 and 0!!!!!!!

 

 

 

AZ baby!!!!!!!!!!!

[bonecollector]

 

 

 

Haha I'm not asking for your advice or guidance. As much as you think I care I really don't. Nowhere in the law does it state that I have to call game and fish If I find a dead elk. You may call them if you want but I don't want to and will not call them. I'm not going to make them money by giving them the chance to auction it off. As you have no respect for me I have no respect for you and really don't care about anything you have to say about this post or about this elk. You seem slightly confused about the law so don't try and educate me when I don't ask for your education and then you try and educate me incorrectly. It is not against the law for me to not call the game and fish about a dead elk. And even if it were guess what? I still wouldn't call them.

Ok, I'm uneducated on breaking the law, but during my child's hunter safety course, provided by GandF they asked what are you supposed to do if you come along a wounded or deceased animal? Answer was to call Game and Fish and report the location. They also asked it no be moved so that they may investigate the animal as it lays. So if it is not in the regulations, why would they teach our children and new hunters this rule? "You seem slightly confused about the law so don't try and educate me when I "didn't" ask for your education.........". Grammer is tough sometimes huh?

So if you shot a animal and couldnt find it, you would want somebody that did find it to report to G&F so you would have to buy it from them? It is perfectly legal for the owner of this bull to go wrap his or hers tag around it as long as its still in the dates of the hunt.

It has to be recovered within 48 hours, if it is not regardless of when the hunt ends is considered lost game and belongs to the state of Arizona, that being said my hats off to bc777, archery hunting is tough these elk are extremely tough to bring down even with a good shot and also how hard it is to draw a tag these days who ever shot this bull deserves it and should not have to buy it at auction.

48 hrs of what? The shot or actually when the animal dies?

[standman]

I can't believe I read through all these comments. Good for bc777 for trying to find the owner.

 

The cards are 3 and 0!!!!!!!

 

 

 

AZ baby!!!!!!!!!!!

This is the most interesting thing I read in the whole thing besides the original post. And I'm tired of seeing all the yellow hankies all over the field. The flags have actually become worse than the arguing on this site. Hard to believe.

 

Brian

[hoghntr]

Im just wondering how many guys call game and fish if they have shot & lost a animal? so does G & F have a lost in found for hunters?? gee i will have to remember that on my next bad shot. G & F must have been super busy rounding up lost elk this weekend and last cuz never saw them in my unit.. also did not see jerky forestry guys that I really wanted to tell them how I felt about their lovely map and all its mistakes. maybe forestry also has lost & found ??

 

If that 48hrs thing is correct that is CRAZY

[D.F.M.]

Ok now I am serious. During archery season 2014. Unit 4b.Big but not to big. Brown in color. On the body now did I win!!!!!! And that's not sarcasm. I was just playin.

[Guest wdenike]

Ohhh Myyyy GOD!!!! This is still goin???? BEAM ME UP SCOTTY!!!!! :P Can't we just go talk about the pronunciation of CAUSE deer???? :blink:

 

 

 

 

Take care, Willie