Long Range Rifle Scopes

[GameHauler]

BSA 8X32x40 $119.99

Sorry Gino

[Red Rabbit]

Tim,

I quickly punched in some numbers into Point Blank for a 300 mag shooting a 180 bullet like an Accubond or Ballistic tip, bc=.507, at 3000fps

Shooting at 4000' elevation, 70*F and 100 yard zero, the drop at 700 yards is 102"

Shooting at 7000' elevation, 40*F and 100 yard zero, the drop at 700 yards is 100"

At sea level, the drop would be 108"

 

But if you change loads, say to a 150 BT , bc=.435, at 3300fps, the drop at 700 yards is 85" (7000', 40*)

 

If you use one load, the BDC would work. If you're like me and always trying different bullets and loads, the regular turret would be better, unless one buys a diff BDC knob for each load.

 

I agree with what you're saying. It comes to preference, IMO. Ford or Chevy, they'll both get us to camp.

 

Doug

[TAM]

Red Rabbit, with the turrets you still re-zero your rifle/scope if you change loads right?

 

I think for a guy like yourself that likes to change loads a lot the turrets would be the way to go! I always worry that on those longer shots where your adjusting a lot of clicks that I'm going to loose count of my clicks during all the excitement or worse yet forget got reset back to zero. Although I think many of the target turrets have ways of marking your zero so you can always go back to it. For a guy like me that has just one load, I like the BDC. For the most part my coues hunting is done around 5,000 foot elevation and anything plus or minus a thousand feet will not have a huge impact on my BDC out to 600 or even 700 yards. For my rifle and loads at 800 yards there is only a 1 click change going from 5,000 to 6,000 elevation. For me I think it's just easier to set my BDC to 800 yards and then make the 1 click adjustment for the altitude. I just like the idea of having all the drop chart data build in to the BDC, and if I were to have to pay for a couple of them for different loads and such I think I'd be ok with that too.

 

Thanks!

[coueshunter]

You might want to go to Premier Reticles web site and see what they have. I bought a Leupold VXIII from them and they put in their reticle system, calibrated the scope for my caliber/bullet weight/altitude and I have dots out to 600 yards. It takes the guess work out of turning the turretts..........Allen...........

[DesertBull]

Premier Reticles doesn't do that anymore. You can order those pre-calibrated reticles directly from Leupold now or send your old scope back to them. Evidently, they saw how how popular those things were and stopped Premier from doing it so they could offer it themselves.

[blaserman]

I found a Place that you can Buy a Nightforce 3.5x 15 x 50 for $1356

 

I am looking at a Night force 5.5 x 22 x56 for $900 used but I want the NP RI reticle so it will cost me $120 to change it.

 

I know where a 3.5x 15 x 50 is for 1250 but if I don't buy it I think it is spoken for .

 

 

there is a guy who has a deal on Leupold 6.5 x 20 for $ 550 new in the box.

[Red Rabbit]

Last weekend, Casey and I did some shooting across a canyon at rocks on the opposite wall around 450 yards away. Both of us had 4.5-14 Leupolds with B&C or varmint reticles on our 22-250's. One of us would point out a selected rock target and spot the hits.

 

I saw no impact when Casey first shot. He had forgotten to turn the power selector ring to the 14x, which is the setting that the stadia wires work. Minutes later, I did the same mistake , as I did not turn the power ring to 14x after looking through at lower magnification.

 

Thus, drawbacks were exposed, that it easy to forget to be on the correct (usually highest) power for the subtension to be correct, and at high power the field of view may be too limited for quick target aquisition.

 

I still prefer the turrets. They work the same regardless of the scope magnification setting. Having to use the highest magnification with a B&C type reticle in the dim light of dusk may result in too dim of an image or difficulty in seeing the fine cross hairs.

 

Doug~RR

[shortpants]

Hey Doug,

Your referring to 1st focal plane vs. 2nd focal plane.

I can't ever remember which is which but I have the one that it doesn't make a difference what power setting the scope is on because the reticle itself magnifies along with the target as you crank up the power. This is also referred to as the european style. I LOVE IT!

 

I know you already know all this but I thought I would throw this out there for those who have not heard of it.

[Red Rabbit]

Shortpants,

You have the first focal plane, where the reticle magnifies along with the image. The Leupold has the reticle in the second focal plane, where the reticle stays the same size as the image enlarges. Some Swaros are first plane. Do you have one with the TDS? If so, is the greatest distance/lowest hash mark still visible at the highest power? The first focal plane would be best with B&C/TDS type reticles.

 

Doug

[firstcoueswas80]

i have been very impressed with my Varmint Reticle scope. yes, you have to shoot it on 14x power which kinda sucks but the accuracy of it is pretty dang amazing. were talking when Doug and I shot, i was shooting at a target at 478 yards, and with my 500 marker, i was high. when i the 478 yard marker on it, bam, i smoked it!

[shortpants]

Hey Doug, I've got a Leupold that premier reticles built for me.

I am terrible at remembering names of things so you'll have to remind me what TDS stands for again?

[firstcoueswas80]

TDS is in Swarovski scopes.... dont gotta worry bout that with a leupold

[Coues 'n' Sheep]

Hey guys. I have really enjoyed all the info and shop talk. And am now closer than ever to making a scope choice...... I have found something new. Have any of you ever seen or used a Huskemaw Optics scope??? Is offered through Gunwerks.... basically The Best of the West company and is really set up for hunters.... The scope is made by the same company that produces the Night Force scopes..... has a reticle designed for windage... and comes with a factory installed "zero stop", which is only available to police and military with Night Force...... and is priced at under a grand. I'd like any input you might have......

 

Thanks.

 

CnS

[firstcoueswas80]

I dont man, thats a lot of money to invest on a scope that most people have never heard of.

[Huntn coues]

Hey guys. I have really enjoyed all the info and shop talk. And am now closer than ever to making a scope choice...... I have found something new. Have any of you ever seen or used a Huskemaw Optics scope??? Is offered through Gunwerks.... basically The Best of the West company and is really set up for hunters.... The scope is made by the same company that produces the Night Force scopes..... has a reticle designed for windage... and comes with a factory installed "zero stop", which is only available to police and military with Night Force...... and is priced at under a grand. I'd like any input you might have......

 

Thanks.

 

CnS

 

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