'tis the season for kills - a little advice given for leftover part disposal

[GreyGhost85]

If you have to ask a question like that please go take a hunter ed class asap and refrain from discussing hunting in public until you do take said class.

so what is a person supposed to do if they dont have the luxury of having their kill hidden deep inside their truck? i have many times hauled out animals that are exposed in my vehicle, being on top of gear. what about a bull elk loaded into the back of a toyota? done that many times. should i take i hunter ed class because non-hunters saw my harvest? that was a ridiculoous comment. as long as the animal is being processed and taken care of, who cares if it is strapped to the top of a jeep? i hunt in a tacoma with a camper shell, and have been LUCKY enough to take a couple elk who's heads will not fit in the back. guess where they get strapped for the ride out? right on top of the camper shell. should i take hunter ed again so as to ensure i don't commit this horrible crime once again? we are all hunters. hunters kill things. non-hunters don't like seeing it. big deal. maybe if i take hunter ed 10 more times it will finally break my nasty habit

[MULEPACKHUNTER]

Just to clarify the post was stating to take care in the field to be good reps of the sport or lifestyle of hunting. If you don't want to create enemies or give anti hunting advocates ammunition for uneducated supporters to their cause then game should be handled descretly and persons involved in hunting should handle themselves professionally. How hard is it to put a tarp over the animal. Why someone would haul a whole deer is beyond me but if they must it should at least be covered up. Sorry the rediculous days of strapping the deer to the hood as a trophy are gone. I am no veteran but since I have bought at least one tag I unfortunately for some get an opinion. I learned from others. Books. Hunter ed. And good ole common sense. We have every right to do whatever we want in many ways but it doesn't mean we should. I for one have a vegan mother who prays for the animals I chase to get away and yet she still supports what I do because I keep the details she doesn't like out of sight. Ethics and common sense are sometimes in short supply.

[GreyGhost85]

packing out animals in pieces is a realtively new process. back in the day, huners almost always drug their deer out of the field whole. yes you do have your right to express an opinion because you do put money back into the system, however, maybe get a few more harvests and experience about hunting in general before telling people that have MUCH more experience than you how they should handle their business. you are a product of very modern hunting processes, and there is nothing wrong with that, but many of us that are multi generation die hard hunters that might conduct their business different than you, and who are you to tell us that we are doing things wrong and need to go back through hunter ed? hunter ed didn't teach me much other than how to get an orange card that lets me hunt in other states every year. i learned everything i know by being taken hunting from the time i could walk by people that have been been hunting since they could walk and so on and so forth. my family also ran a butcher shop for years. since i have been on this earth i have eaten 10 times more game meat than processed food. to say that my kills are taken care of properly and treated with respect is a tremendous understatement. anti hunters are going to be upset with hunters no matter what we do. i am not going to hide or be ashamed that i am a hunter, just so i don't upset an anti. hunting is here to stay, no matter how many hippies we piss off

[jim]

Greyghost you are correct and I totally understand both sides. But if you think you do not have to worry about the non hunting community at some point voting out your hunting rights you might want to research what is happening in California. The voters are taking there rights one by one. I understand your issue about where you have to put your elk, all these guys are saying is cover up the blood and gore.Theres nothing wrong in wrapping up the head so others driving down the highway dont pass a bloody head with the tounge hanging out. The next time a vote is needed to save some hunting issue that will be the view that person votes with. As was proved with trapping if the end hunting groups get the right backing rural az can not out vote the cities we just don't have enough votes.

[shanehamblin]

The day that I cover up my hard earned trophy in my vehicle so some hippie picking mushrooms doesn't get offended will be the day I just quit hunting all together. An grey ghost is right. We were raised old school. Almost always we brought the entire animal out. To this day if possible that's the way my dad prefers to do it. An honestly until you mentioned it the thought never crossed my mind to cover a kill in my truck. An since you mentioned covering it with a tarp. Go ahead an cover up your kill with a tarp an see how much meat you have left when you unload it. Especially in the early fall.

[mattys281]

Covering the animal does far more than just keeping it out of sight. It also keeps dust, road debris & bugs, from getting all over it. What I was taught about wild game was three things: keep it cool, dry & keep it clean.

 

As for cutting animals into pieces being new, that's far from true. Backcountry hunters have been hiking animals out of the wilderness in backpack size pieces forever. I've seen many pictures of guys with heads strapped on the external frame packs lugging 100+lb loads down the trail from back in the 60's & 70's. I've seen more than a couple videos of Dwight Schuh & Larry D Jones doing it in the 80's & early 90's. I've personally only ever shot a couple animals that were close enough to a road to come out in one piece, everything else has come out on my back.

[Guest wdenike]

Wow!!! Was waiting for someone to get fed up with the POLICALLY CORRECT BS. As far as losing trapping in Arizona, Lion, bear, and bobcat hunting with hounds in California. It has nothing to do with azz kissing the greenies, or Demorats. They are going to do what they do. Whether you bring a portable processing plant to where ya killed the critter, and took it out looking like it came from the grocery store. So please smarten up and identify the real problem. Instead of trying to feel warm and fuzzy just like our problem children that are always trying to take our liberties from us.

 

The problem is sportsman don't stick together, and spend money to stop these kooks together. If it doesn't affect something that a particular individual is interested in no one cares about the other guy's problem. Well guess what the problem is only around the corner from everyone's particular interest. That means duck hunters, rabbit, pheasant, deer, elk, turkey, and every manufacturer of anything we need as sportsman. Needs to cough up MONEY to help every aspect of hunting and fishing. But don't hold our breath, we have been allowing this to go on for a long time. Because as long as we have ours, who cares about the other guy's passion. BUT PLEASE DON'T INSULT MY INTELLEGENCE AND ANYBODY ELSE WITH A BRAIN. BY TRYING TO CONVINCE US BY SMOOCHING UP TO THESE IDIOTS THAT THEY WILL SMOOCH BACK, AND LOVE OUR PASSION!!!!!

 

 

Take care, Willie

[jim]

Well Shane in round valley I would not worry so much about covering them up but these guys that travel back and forth to phx is where the exposure is troublesome. I don't mean tarps anyway A head wrapped in a game bag does the same thing. Willie you can have all the money you want but if these things get to a vote we do not have the numbers to fight the non hunting vote. The numbers are just not there so out side of money, pr is very important in the fight that is coming.

[UncleSnick]

This guy must have missed his hunter ed class.

[Hunterjohnny]

Dove hunters messes have to be the worse. Always pile of feathers and shells left behind.

And I keep animals low profile because I dont want to offend, not because they would be offended. I want to be respectful of the animal and others. It's not about putting an animal on display because you can. Just my take on what I want people to see a "hunter" doing.

[Guest wdenike]

Jim,

 

 

You are assuming every uneducated city dweller is as strong willed as HSUS and its demoratic friends. And has a deep rooted hatred for things we are passionate about. Which is simply not the case. They are swayed by TV ads that are lied about the actual events on camera. By extreme left wing people with an agenda. We will have to be able to trade fists with these people. And make people see TV ads at voting time portraying the truth. So they can be swayed toward the truth. Or we will continue to lose at the polls. And yes it takes money that sportsman, and an entire industry that takes our money for our toys refuses to spend.

 

 

As for the picture of the jeep and elk. I guess it has always been about the meat with me. And I always have a plan as to what I am doing in the event of success. And would never have been backed in a corner like that.

 

 

 

Take care, Willie

[jim]

I support as much as I can. The only thing I was trying to get across is that it's all part of the fight. If I can stop one person from not voting anti by not putting bad images in their head that saves one vote we don't have to spend money to get. I don't believe that mulepackers message was delivered very well but he was just trying to get to the same end as you and I are saying. It's a big fight saving what we all are passionate about and every little piece will help in the end. In the end we are not going to change the radicles but you are correct it's the ones that are sitting on the fence we need to sway whether it be with money or our actions.

[madx250]

This is how I roll.

[GJMauro12]

Not sure what the big deal is with having a little bone hanging out of the truck bed. There's no blood or guts it's just antler and I typically get more thumbs up than a thumbs down on the free way. If you have a decent bull down and a bed full of camping gear there ain't much room to hide a 6x6 bull. Meat and hide is always in coolers but the rack and skinned skull get thrown on top of the rest of the junk in the bed.

 

Again, it's only antler they can see with zero blood, meat or gut showing so I don't know what the problem is.

 

Either way I've been enjoying this thread and thought I would chime in so I can find it easier to follow along.

[Guest wdenike]

Not sure what the big deal is with having a little bone hanging out of the truck bed. There's no blood or guts it's just antler and I typically get more thumbs up than a thumbs down on the free way. If you have a decent bull down and a bed full of camping gear there ain't much room to hide a 6x6 bull. Meat and hide is always in coolers but the rack and skinned skull get thrown on top of the rest of the junk in the bed.

 

Again, it's only antler they can see with zero blood, meat or gut showing so I don't know what the problem is.

 

Either way I've been enjoying this thread and thought I would chime in so I can find it easier to follow along.

 

 

 

I'm with ya on this. Like I said, with me it is about not wasting any of the meat. And on many of our hunts in Az. transporting using some of these methods results in spoiled foooood. But in a lot of states that have way colder weather it is the way it's done, and no one bats an eye. Can't tell ya how many motels have meat poles out front. That some times have ten or more deer hanging in the front of them. But ya have to get out a little to see this, and just not believe that the sun rises and sets on the way Arizona and Comifornia sees things. Never thought I'd lump Az. in with Comifornia but times are changing.

 

 

Take care, Willie