Border units

[trphyhntr]

I really admire all of the brave Americans(hunters) on this site who are NOT afraid to fight for their right to enjoy the outdoors here in the United States. It takes a lot of guts to take on a armed rip crew in the mountains of southern Arizona, especially when most of them will have prior military training (trained by American Special Forces) and will have you out gunned. It is honorable that you are willing to do what most Americans won't do, which is go into an area that the rip crews know like the back of their hand, where the rip crews have the high ground, with scouts watching your every movement and take them on on their turf. And talk about courage, it amazes me that you would go up against a armed rip crew with just your trusty .300 Mag and your Glock 9mm, all while the rip crew is armed with fully automatic AK-47s with 30 round Mags and tactical vests with additional mags.

 

This is the kind or bravery, courage, and honor that many of the young men who join the military and fight to protect our rights have. It is most admirable, and I am thankful for their sacrifices every day.

 

Just remember these young men in the military work with a unit or team of others to take on bad guys. They always try to go into a fight with superiority of force, and never take a knife to a gun fight.

We go hard these days

[Snapshot]

If we had real leaders in Washington D.C, instead of Golfers and fundraisers, our borders would be secure, and we wouldn't be having this debate.

[AZLance]

Your an agent down south I'm guessing? Why would us military trained rip crew guys be using ak's, I'd assume they'd use a more accurate semi auto weapon? (Don't wanna get into the ak vs. ar argument) and why do you have to sound like such a smart as$? No ones saying that the danger isn't there, that Islam isn't crossing, that cartels aren't crossing, we're just saying that we'll take our chances, and if push comes to shove maybe one or two of them will get picked off before they get us.

Not sure what 520Hunt thinks but this is my take on it.

 

I think the weapon of choice in Mexico has been and will always be the AK-47. The accessibility of the AK-47 is not in any way in short demand either. Also when you look at rebel groups around the world they tend to use the AK-47. It might come down not to accuracy, but to reliability. If your life depended on it and you saw two guns burried in the sand, which gun would you pick up and expect to fire over and over again without cleaning? Plus I'm sure price does factor into the equation...

 

Sorry to start a AK-47 vs AR debate... just saying...

[muledeerarea33?]

 

Your an agent down south I'm guessing? Why would us military trained rip crew guys be using ak's, I'd assume they'd use a more accurate semi auto weapon? (Don't wanna get into the ak vs. ar argument) and why do you have to sound like such a smart as$? No ones saying that the danger isn't there, that Islam isn't crossing, that cartels aren't crossing, we're just saying that we'll take our chances, and if push comes to shove maybe one or two of them will get picked off before they get us.

Not sure what 520Hunt thinks but this is my take on it.

 

I think the weapon of choice in Mexico has been and will always be the AK-47. The accessibility of the AK-47 is not in any way in short demand either. Also when you look at rebel groups around the world they tend to use the AK-47. It might come down not to accuracy, but to reliability. If your life depended on it and you saw two guns burried in the sand, which gun would you pick up and expect to fire over and over again without cleaning? Plus I'm sure price does factor into the equation...

 

Sorry to start a AK-47 vs AR debate... just saying...

I completely agree with you on everything you said but if they are US trained military gone rogue as stated previously I would figure they'd choose different. And as we know, with cartels, money and short supply don't exist.

[Snapshot]

If someone is firing a gun at me, I'm not going to be concerned about what type of gun it is

[520HUNT]

Former Mex. Military trained by US forces now work for and run the cartels...

 

http://www.examiner.com/article/is-the-u-s-military-training-the-next-generation-of-drug-cartel-enforcers

[johnnie blaze]

Should we be afraid? Should we hide? Should we give them an inch so they can take a mile? Next thing you know we won't be able to hunt 33....HOMMIE DONT PLAY DAT

[ruffcountry]

This thread has inspired me to for the first time name our camp . This year will officially be "Camp Infidel". Unit 35b your all invited to stop by for a hot cup coffee or a cold beer .

[AZLance]

 

 

Your an agent down south I'm guessing? Why would us military trained rip crew guys be using ak's, I'd assume they'd use a more accurate semi auto weapon? (Don't wanna get into the ak vs. ar argument) and why do you have to sound like such a smart as$? No ones saying that the danger isn't there, that Islam isn't crossing, that cartels aren't crossing, we're just saying that we'll take our chances, and if push comes to shove maybe one or two of them will get picked off before they get us.

Not sure what 520Hunt thinks but this is my take on it.

 

I think the weapon of choice in Mexico has been and will always be the AK-47. The accessibility of the AK-47 is not in any way in short demand either. Also when you look at rebel groups around the world they tend to use the AK-47. It might come down not to accuracy, but to reliability. If your life depended on it and you saw two guns burried in the sand, which gun would you pick up and expect to fire over and over again without cleaning? Plus I'm sure price does factor into the equation...

 

Sorry to start a AK-47 vs AR debate... just saying...

I completely agree with you on everything you said but if they are US trained military gone rogue as stated previously I would figure they'd choose different. And as we know, with cartels, money and short supply don't exist.

I'm not 100% sure, but the Mexican military and federal police use the Heckler & Koch G3, I would bet that is what they were trained on while at Fort Bennig. I think they are in the process of switching over to the FX-05 Xiuhcoati. But I haven't seen any with the new rifle on my trips down south ( I read somewhere that only Mex special forces use the FX-05) I do know from pictures in news articles I have seen some ARs that have been seized by US law enforcement, but the AK-47 is the major weapon I see.

[Snapshot]

Any potential terrorist that is trying to make their way into this country is going to keep a low profile, and try to blend into the crowd. Most likely joining up at some point with whatever comrades, or sleeper cell, that is already here. I doubt hunters along the southern units have much to worry about in that regard. There has been some innuendo about the Mexican Cartels possibly helping these goons to achieve their objectives. The Mexican Cartels are ruthless, and I would be more concerned about the role they may play in the future.

 

I don't normally hunt the border units, but when I do it is the northern sections of 30B, and 34a. I've only heard stories of what has been seen in the occupied zones

[Non-Typical Solutions]

It has been ten years since we hunted 36B and it was nasty filthy with trash down there then. Eye opener for me and my family as we had not hunted down there since 85-86.

I remember watching through a spotting scope a couple of what I believe were hunters trying on pants that were left in the wash, that was kinda funny but hey,the pants were in great condition.

I find it interesting that we are worried about border wars and be-headings in foreign countries but don't really pay much attention to our own border and be-headings going on by Los Zetas......just saying does not make sense to my simple mind.

 

I would hunt south of I-10 like previously said......can't let them take that from us.

[fullmetal]

Dont post much here but seen this and figured I would 2 weekends ago my buddy was down in 36b hunting and he had 2 guys try to open his door and get him out of his truck one of the guys had a cell phone and kept on saying he wants to talk to you he wants to talk to you and as he was distracting him with that thats when they tried to open his doors needless to say it was scary for him and he's been hunting down there for 50 years and this is the first problem he's had down there

[DesertBull]

Any potential terrorist that is trying to make their way into this country is going to keep a low profile, and try to blend into the crowd. Most likely joining up at some point with whatever comrades, or sleeper cell, that is already here. I doubt hunters along the southern units have much to worry about in that regard. There has been some innuendo about the Mexican Cartels possibly helping these goons to achieve their objectives. The Mexican Cartels are ruthless, and I would be more concerned about the role they may play in the future.

 

I don't normally hunt the border units, but when I do it is the northern sections of 30B, and 34a. I've only heard stories of what has been seen in the occupied zones

 

 

If you think about it, it does not make sense for drug cartels to help destroy this country. Who they gonna sell dope to? Another successful attack on the US will likely send our economy into a deep depression. Not good for their business. They should be killing those ISIS dudes hanging out in Juarez.

[PelaPapas]

Dont post much here but seen this and figured I would 2 weekends ago my buddy was down in 36b hunting and he had 2 guys try to open his door and get him out of his truck one of the guys had a cell phone and kept on saying he wants to talk to you he wants to talk to you and as he was distracting him with that thats when they tried to open his doors needless to say it was scary for him and he's been hunting down there for 50 years and this is the first problem he's had down there

Pretty crazy stuff right there! Sounds like a hectic situation to be in. Was your buddy ok? whatever came about them trying to open his door?

[Snapshot]

 

Any potential terrorist that is trying to make their way into this country is going to keep a low profile, and try to blend into the crowd. Most likely joining up at some point with whatever comrades, or sleeper cell, that is already here. I doubt hunters along the southern units have much to worry about in that regard. There has been some innuendo about the Mexican Cartels possibly helping these goons to achieve their objectives. The Mexican Cartels are ruthless, and I would be more concerned about the role they may play in the future.

 

I don't normally hunt the border units, but when I do it is the northern sections of 30B, and 34a. I've only heard stories of what has been seen in the occupied zones

 

 

If you think about it, it does not make sense for drug cartels to help destroy this country. Who they gonna sell dope to? Another successful attack on the US will likely send our economy into a deep depression. Not good for their business. They should be killing those ISIS dudes hanging out in Juarez.

 

It's just something I read on a news clip. You know how rumors are. Who knows. For the right amount of money, I would bet the cartel would provide them with an armed escort to the border?

 

Crazy times!