trphyhntr Report post Posted August 2, 2014 not sure if this has been discussed. just curious what you guys think about the idea. good idea, bad idea? i'll be honest, im a bit of a hippy on this subject. I don't think I want it. what say you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HuntHarder Report post Posted August 2, 2014 Hippy. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OpticNerd Report post Posted August 2, 2014 I'd have to say no to a fence. A wall like the Great Wall of China on the other hand would be a heck yes from this non-hippy! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertBull Report post Posted August 2, 2014 A country without borders is not a country. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muledeerarea33? Report post Posted August 2, 2014 Shoot to kill, ask no questions, take prisoners. Lots of country's do this and have minimal border issues. A wall of armed agents willing to enforce AND actually given the order to will be way more productive than a fence (although a clear border boundary "fence" is needed too) I don't think the issue is the agents, it's their command. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertBull Report post Posted August 2, 2014 It would not be such an issue if we did not offer welfare, education, amnesty, etc etc etc. Quit giving incentives to come here and a lot of the issue goes away. I am 100% FOR legal immigration, but like many other countries require, you need to be able to demonstrate that you can be self supporting. We also need to make a lot LEGAL citizens here more self supporting and less govt dependent. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coues7 Report post Posted August 3, 2014 No one in Washington is serious about the issue. I they were, what muledeerarea33 said would be in practice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5guyshunting Report post Posted August 3, 2014 Shoot to kill, ask no questions, take prisoners. Lots of country's do this and have minimal border issues. A wall of armed agents willing to enforce AND actually given the order to will be way more productive than a fence (although a clear border boundary "fence" is needed too) I don't think the issue is the agents, it's their command.I think we are taking prisoners, and they like being imprisoned in the good o'l USof A. We are all paying for it! this may be pushing things, but oh well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coach Report post Posted August 3, 2014 Secure the border with armed service men and women from National Guard to Spec Ops types. Cut funding immediately to Mexican companies that build US branded cars, impound all imports from the southern border. Make it known to Mexico that the few economic gains they currently enjoy will dry up in weeks if THEY don't clean up this mess. This problem originated in Mexico, they should clean it up. In reality, they never will, Illegals are sending millions of dollars into Mexico every day, and the Democrats love this because they are made up of old school dems who don't realize they are actually republicans, black voters who have forgotten that MLK Jr was Republican, Jews who vote democrat even though Dems throw them under the bus every day, Native Americans vote left every time, but it's the left that marginalized them, It's no surprise that the power tool on the left is all about importing tens of thousands of people who are dependent on 'the system'. Dependency is their goal, their crutch. The last thing they want is an independent, free thinking society of people who can call bullshit. Well, I don't mind speaking my mind and I'll call BULLSHIT. We should stand united with guns in hand and tell the feds, they are full of crap. We've had enough and we're ready to stand together, hand in hand, arms at the ready. This B.S. utopia dream they're trying to sell is shallow, pointless and leads our country nowhere. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reganranch Report post Posted August 3, 2014 You're right on the money Coach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Non-Typical Solutions Report post Posted August 3, 2014 I posted this a couple years ago I think or maybe I wished I had can't remember. I bought a bird feeder. I hung It on my back porch and filled It with seed. What a beauty of a bird feeder it was, as I filled it lovingly with seed. Within a week we had hundreds of birds taking advantage of the continuous flow of free and easily accessible food. But then the birds started building nests in the boards of the patio, above the table, and next to the barbecue. Then came the poop. It was everywhere: on the patio tile, the chairs, the table, everywhere! Then some of the birds turned mean. They would dive bomb me and try to peck me even though I had fed them out of my own pocket. And other birds were boisterous and loud. They sat on the feeder and squawked and screamed at all hours of the day and night and demanded that I fill it when it got low on food. After a while, I couldn't even sit on my own back porch anymore. So I took down the bird feeder and in three days the birds were gone. I cleaned up their mess and took down the many nests they had built all over the patio. Soon, the back yard was like it used to be.....quiet, serene....and no one demanding their rights to a free meal. Now let's see......Our government gives out free food, subsidized housing, free medical care and free education, and allows anyone born here to be an automatic citizen. Then the illegal's came by the tens of thousands. Suddenly our taxes went up to pay for free services; small apartments are housing 5 families; you have to wait 6 hours to be seen by an emergency room doctor; Your child's second grade class is behind other schools because over half the class doesn't speak English. Corn Flakes now come in a bilingual box; I have to 'press one ' to hear my bank talk to me in English, and people waving flags other than "ours" are squawking and screaming in the streets, demanding more rights and free liberties. Just my opinion, but maybe it's time for the government to take down the bird feeder! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bandido243 Report post Posted August 3, 2014 We have a border wall. It's twenty feet high. They still get through while we have Americas Finest at checkpoints fifty miles North. Agents ON THE BORDER would help IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reganranch Report post Posted August 3, 2014 We have a "border wall" in some places not all. Take a trip down to the Slaughter Ranch in 30A there is a barb wire fence and small normandy barriers to keep cars out but that's it. A border,which is totally permeable waiting for invasion from an advanced nation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ctafoya Report post Posted August 3, 2014 Militarize the border south AND north. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted August 4, 2014 We have a "border wall" in some places not all. Take a trip down to the Slaughter Ranch in 30A there is a barb wire fence and small normandy barriers to keep cars out but that's it. A border,which is totally permeable waiting for invasion from an advanced nation. dude i was straight hunting a water hole in sonora 2 years ago. i had no idea, lol. there was no fence at all. i only knew cuz i went back and google earthed it. oops. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites