azgutpile Report post Posted July 30, 2014 The guy in payson is the same guy who does it for the outdoorsman down here in phoenix. This is the best tripod mount system for the EL's. Outdoorsman's adapter with the stud press fit into the bino's by the guy in Payson. The strap mounts IMO limit the adjustability of the binocular and wear out over time. +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimichanga Report post Posted July 30, 2014 12's for sure. One bino for free hand glassing and off a tripod. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kwp Report post Posted July 30, 2014 The only bino adapter for the ELs worth looking at is the outdoorsman one that others have referenced. As for the binos. I don't think you can go wrong either way. Comparisons to older model swaros are not true comparisons. Both of the new models have major upgrades in clarity, brightness, ergonomics, etc over the older non swarovision el and non HD SLC. For me the difference in power is why I bought the 15x. All of my buddies that look through them are blown away and these are swaro and leica guys so they know good optics. Either way you will love them. What glass are you currently using? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
payson ff Report post Posted July 30, 2014 15's with a tri pod if you are going to be glassing all day Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coues7 Report post Posted July 30, 2014 I'm currently using 10 X 50 SLC's, 2009 vintage. I love them I just want a little bit more power but hate to not have an around your neck Bino Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rcdinaz Report post Posted July 30, 2014 I have 8's, SLC 10's and 15's and still put down the gut wrenching cash on the 12's. They are awesome the FOV is really amazing which makes them very bright. I have so many binos because everytime i add a hunter to the crowd i eventually buy a new pair. So my dad and daughters use the others. I am pretty much set on the 12'a now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kwp Report post Posted July 30, 2014 I'm currently using 10 X 50 SLC's, 2009 vintage. I love them I just want a little bit more power but hate to not have an around your neck Bino If you are willing to carry both, I think that 10s around your neck with 15s in the pack for the tripod is an unbeatable combination. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shanehamblin Report post Posted July 30, 2014 I'm currently using 10 X 50 SLC's, 2009 vintage. I love them I just want a little bit more power but hate to not have an around your neck BinoIf you are willing to carry both, I think that 10s around your neck with 15s in the pack for the tripod is an unbeatable combination. +1 I've got SLC HD 10s on my chest an SLC 15s in my pack. I cant imagine selling them for the 12s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rugerman Report post Posted July 30, 2014 I was tired of carrying both. I went to the 12s and picked up an STS 80HD scope. The 12s are ~the same weight as my SLC 10s were and the scope is 4oz more than the 15s. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rcdinaz Report post Posted July 31, 2014 I was tired of carrying both. I went to the 12s and picked up an STS 80HD scope. The 12s are ~the same weight as my SLC 10s were and the scope is 4oz more than the 15s. Exactly what I did after having the 10's & 15's combo for years. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coues7 Report post Posted July 31, 2014 I have the Swaro 20-60x65mm spotter (non-HD). Man I'm torn on what to do...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rugerman Report post Posted July 31, 2014 I was torn too. I was thinking that I wouldn't be steady enough to handhold the 12s. Not the case. They are an around your neck bino. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coues7 Report post Posted August 2, 2014 So for those that have experience both the 12's and the 15's, wha would you recommend? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike S Report post Posted August 2, 2014 Happy with my 12ELs and 65mm Swaro. Sold my 15s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coues7 Report post Posted August 2, 2014 Is it the swarovision that makes a difference or it is the middle ground magnification difference? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites