azcouesandelk Report post Posted January 28, 2007 Just want to get some input on this. I am looking for getting an upgrade from my 3 pin site. I have several questions. Is a 7 pin going overboard or should I stick with getting a 5 pin? I am looking at Spot-Hogg sites. How are these? What kind of site do you shoot? I am also thinking of getting my bow uped to either 65 or 70 pounds. So I am hoping I will be close to shooting the IBO for my bow which is 308 fps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZP&Y Report post Posted January 28, 2007 Younghunter, I believe that 5 pins is sufficient for archery hunting. But some will argue 7 is the way to go. I have been using 4 pins for many years and do just fine. I asked this question last year and you can get some good info from all of the serious bowhunters on this site. I decided NOT to go with a lighted Montec G5 5 pin site for many reasons (including it being illegal etc). Rather considering as you have the Montec g5 non lighted site... I still haven't bought another site for my for 2007 hunt season, but am using the old stand by. Many touted the Spott Hogg as being one of the better sites. I'll be watching your post. Here is the link from my thread in 2006 http://forums.coueswhitetail.com/forums/in...p;hl=spott+hogg I believe the pictures have archived from the thread, but the content is still there... AzP&Y Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elkhunter Report post Posted January 28, 2007 5 sounds good, you might have a hard time finding the animals with 7 pins covering it up! How bout a sight where you can start out with 4 or 5 and then you can purchase more pins later on when you feel comfortable shooting long distance? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CritterGitter Report post Posted January 28, 2007 How many pins you need depends on how far you're gonna shoot. I've known some people who can consistently harvest animal out to 90 or so yards and some others who couldn't hit the side of a barn if they were on the inside shooting out. I personally have 7 pins, but would be hesitant most of the time to shoot at 70 or 80 unless the conditons were perfect.... I'd hate to wound something because I took a careless shot. Sure, it may happen from time to time anyway. In any case at the rate I'm going, I don't think I need any pins cuz I can't get close enough for a shot. Just my two cents. Gungho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azcouesandelk Report post Posted January 28, 2007 How many pins you need depends on how far you're gonna shoot. I've known some people who can consistently harvest animal out to 90 or so yards and some others who couldn't hit the side of a barn if they were on the inside shooting out. I personally have 7 pins, but would be hesitant most of the time to shoot at 70 or 80 unless the conditons were perfect.... I'd hate to wound something because I took a careless shot. Sure, it may happen from time to time anyway. In any case at the rate I'm going, I don't think I need any pins cuz I can't get close enough for a shot. Just my two cents. Gungho I would like to be efficient out to 70 yards but would only take a shot like that if conditions were absolutely perfect. These were the top 3 sites I have been considering http://cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/pr...&hasJS=true http://cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/pr...&hasJS=true http://cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/pr...&hasJS=true Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobbyo Report post Posted January 28, 2007 Younghunter. You should check out the new hybrid sights. I just got one this year. It is a cobra 5 pin sidewinder sight, but it is on a slider sight mount. This means I can set my pins like a normal sight every 10 yards, but when shooting at longer distances I can move the sight to lines I mark on the slide. Which means I can move the pin from 60 to 100 yards more precisely. For example I can slide my bottom pin for exactly 85 yards and not have to look between pins and guesstamate. I use to have 8 pins and it was a task figuring out which pin goes where. too much clutter. I am convinced this is the type of sight most western bowhunters will have in two years. I know of two manufactures, but I am sure all will make them soon. Mine is made by cobra and I forget the exact name, but it will be on their websight. It retails for about $100. Another is called Lethal Weapon and sells for about $180. You should really look into these sights, because I believe regular sights are going to be obsolete. Bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwoGuns Report post Posted January 28, 2007 I think you should aim to have fewer pins, and todays lightning fast bows allow you to do so. My buddy shoots an Outback that is pretty fast, and is able to have one pin set exactly at 40 yards that is good 0-40, and is only 3 inches low at 50 yards. With that set up, you could easily shoot only 4 pins. I think it helps take the guess work out. The key is a real flat trajectory and quick arrow. The sights that we use work perfect for this set up. They are made by HHA, with pre-set yardage pins based upon the speed you shoot. It is the model T-250. I would love to hear if anyone else has been thinking along these lines with their site set up. ????? http://www.hhasports.com/Sights/TThreat.htm Twoguns Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azcouesandelk Report post Posted January 28, 2007 Two Guns just being curious what kind of speed would I be needing to shoot to be able to have my pins set like that. I would really like to have that kind of shooting ability. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CritterGitter Report post Posted January 28, 2007 Any of those sights you're looking at seem great to me.... you just want something you can see well in low light conditions, and maybe consider the size of the pin head or fiber optic dot... if you shoot out a ways sometimes the smaller pin helps so you don't end up with a giant blob covering your target. It helps you pick a spot. Also you might consider how close you can cram the pins together if your bow is super fast. I shoot a fixed blade broadhead and a little bit heavier arrow so I try not to exceed 300 fps. This way I have a managable draw weight, good arrow flight, and excellent penetration. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TREESTANDMAN Report post Posted January 28, 2007 I will respectfully disagree w/ 2 guns. Although a fast bow does take some of the guesswork out if not using a rangefinder, lightning fast bows are less forgiving leaving no margin for error. I would advise you to have a pin for every 10 yds regardless of the bow's speed. I find it hard to believe there is an outback that shoots the same hole at 15yds and 40 yds. It is so important, especially with these coues that like to jump the string, to know exactly how far they are before touching the release trigger. I went with the Spot Hogg 7 pin on my Mathews Switchback XT. It is very high quality, and excellent for fine tuning. I do like the cross hair that can be removed if desired. I like the tiny fiberoptic points that allow for pinpoint accuracy, but they don't give off much light in low light periods. Most of the top quality sights out there are about equal imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazy4COUES Report post Posted January 28, 2007 The spot-hogg sight is a very good choice. I currently have the hogg-it 5 pin. These things are bullet proof, I highly recommend them if you can afford it. Also I am looking to upgrade to the seven pin cause I would like to practice at the longer yardage. So this is what I came up with, I can have the seven pin housing and IF it appears to be too much pin in the field of view. I can always remove the top and bottom pins and be back to a five pin. My advice is: If you can afford to get the spot hogg seven pin hogg-it, I would give you two thumbs up! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertBull Report post Posted January 28, 2007 I recently upgraded my site to a Trophy Ridge Matrix. I like it. Pins are very bright. Best part is that you can adjust the site without any tools, then lock it down after you have it dialed in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azcouesandelk Report post Posted January 28, 2007 Desertbull I have heard from people that the vertical sites are hard to use at times. How do the vertical pins compeare to horizontal pins? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertBull Report post Posted January 28, 2007 Desertbull I have heard from people that the vertical sites are hard to use at times. How do the vertical pins compeare to horizontal pins? I find no difference. When you are concentrating on the target, you don't even notice which way the pins are oriented. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elmergoo Report post Posted January 29, 2007 I was going to get the G-5 , and it a super nice sight,but I shoot one of those "super fast" bows and went for the 7 pin Spott-Hogg for longer distances.I know have a pin from 30 yds through 100yds in increments every 10 yds. I jumped from 80yds to 100yds ,in case your checking the math.You will run out of room with the G-5 sight window if you expect to set up your pins in increments of 10 yds and shoot out to 100 yds.My only complaint is I broke off some of the fibers ,dragging it through brush,I shoot spot and stalk.Sight still works fine. I just have to replace the whole fiber for the full light gathering ability.They are both great sights, it depends on your fps bow & arrow set up and how far you comfortably feel you can shoot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
