bonecollector Report post Posted July 20, 2014 Thank you for your service and I hope you draw another tag when you return. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bowhuntinmaniac Report post Posted July 21, 2014 Intherut....I thank you for your service and, know how this has to be very hard to know you have held a primo tag for months then, find out you can't go. I would like to send you a check to cover your tag fees. Please PM me where I can mail a check. Thanks again, Garth 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCS Report post Posted July 21, 2014 Bowhuntinmaniac,you are a stand up guy,Thank you for what you have done for Intherut.It makes me appreciate the Coues whitetail Community!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Couestracker Report post Posted July 21, 2014 That's a bad deal about your tag. You'll get another! Thank you for your service and stay safe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chompy Report post Posted July 21, 2014 When you do get your tag again let us know I will definitely go up and help you. Thank you again for your service. Oh and bone collector I know your just expressing your opinion but this is a case where you problay should have kept your mouth shut. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bonecollector777 Report post Posted July 21, 2014 Haha I've never been one to keep my mouth shut chompy. . Why would I start now? Because you said so? What I love about this site is we all have different opinions and we all discuss things and see things differently. I don't expect you to cater to my opinion as I don't cater to yours. But by far my favorite part about this site are the tough guys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5guyshunting Report post Posted July 21, 2014 I gave my opinion, and I dont think the op asked for any opinions. Bonecollecter777 gave an opinion , and his opinion seems to be based on the current G+F laws/rules and regulations. I think he has his opinion and I have mine and other people have theirs. The bottom line is the current G+F laws rule our world untill we can change them. O.P. THANKS AGAIN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMart Report post Posted July 21, 2014 That's too bad, hope you get the tag of your dreams when you return. Some states have a system where you can turn in a tag you can't use and get your money and points back. Then that tag goes to the next person that would have drawn that tag. They just have to draw a few reserves for each hunt in case that happens. I'm sure they have to prove a good reason for not using the tag too. I know I've had a tag that I couldn't use and it just went in the trash. This was a lot time ago before I knew about donating them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeardownAZ Report post Posted July 22, 2014 I don't wanna sound like the bad guy and I thank you for your service but as the rules are written I don't think anyone should get their points or money back. Now before everyone attacks me and says what a horrible person I am for not thinking a military member should get the refund and points back I also don't think anyone else in the world should get either back. When we put in we have unforseen circumstances that could come up. That's the chance we take and as a military member you have agreed and promised to fulfill those duties so although it sucks you don't get your money or a tag when you get back I think it's fair for everyone as a whole. If I fall and break my arm the day before the hunt do I get my tag back the next year since I can't use it? If there are other health problems or deaths in the family or other work related issues that take me away from getting to go on my hunt do I get my tag back the next year? The answer is no. Everyone can go ahead and attack me now but that's just how I feel about the subject as a whole. Not just this instance. They can't make special exceptions for special circumstances. It's no different than if my job called me across the U.S the day before the hunt. It's my job and the military is your job. You are entitled to you opinion, but your wrong. Perhaps EVERYONE should be mandated to serve then at least one enlistment. It's fair to everyone as a whole.....right?? By your way of thinking, if you haven't served, you shouldn't be free. Sound logical? I mean it's the choice you make. Don't compare his job to others. It's not the same. Not even close. Thanks for your service Op! You'll tag again soon! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chompy Report post Posted July 22, 2014 Your right it's a free board where you can express your opinion. I'm not a tough guy never claimed to be I just have a great deal of respect for guys and gals that serve our country so guys like you and I can go hunting when we want and live in a country where we can be safe. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaffer62 Report post Posted July 22, 2014 I agree with Chompy, you draw the tag and I will help in any way I can. Good luck to you and stay safe! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bonecollector777 Report post Posted July 22, 2014 I never said anything to disrespect the man or his service. I simply don't think he should get that same tag when he gets home and shouldn't get his money back. Is there such a problem with that? You telling me my opinion is wrong is like me telling you that you're opinion that steak tastes good is wrong. You need to rephrase your sentence to "since you're opinion isn't the same as mine I'm gonna cry about it and tell you that your opinion is wrong." That would describe what's going on perfectly. Not sure how you took what I said and twisted it into what you just said but not sure where you're going with it. According to your way of thinking the military members should get their own rules and benefits of the draw because they help the nation and community. If they do then let's let the cops and fireman have the same benefits. They help out the community as well. But let's not forget about the paramedics and nurses and doctors who work hard to help the community and nation as well. We better make special rules for them too. Get my point? Who is to decide where the line is drawn if the military helps the nation be more safe and free than the cop. Or if the fireman makes the nation more safe than the paramedic and then who gets to decide which one of all of them gets the special privileges in the draw? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeardownAZ Report post Posted July 22, 2014 I never said anything to disrespect the man or his service. I simply don't think he should get that same tag when he gets home and shouldn't get his money back. Is there such a problem with that? You telling me my opinion is wrong is like me telling you that you're opinion that steak tastes good is wrong. You need to rephrase your sentence to "since you're opinion isn't the same as mine I'm gonna cry about it and tell you that your opinion is wrong." That would describe what's going on perfectly. Not sure how you took what I said and twisted it into what you just said but not sure where you're going with it. According to your way of thinking the military members should get their own rules and benefits of the draw because they help the nation and community. If they do then let's let the cops and fireman have the same benefits. They help out the community as well. But let's not forget about the paramedics and nurses and doctors who work hard to help the community and nation as well. We better make special rules for them too. Get my point? Who is to decide where the line is drawn if the military helps the nation be more safe and free than the cop. Or if the fireman makes the nation more safe than the paramedic and then who gets to decide which one of all of them gets the special privileges in the draw? Nothing else matters if national defense fails or isnt there. We dont have cops or paramedics or fireman or nurses or etc, etc, without keeping the nation as a whole free and safe first from those outside here who would take that away. Sure those jobs are obvisouly important and vital to a society as a whole but without a national defense, they dont exist in a choatic society overun by other nations. They wouldnt be able to exist! The military is where u draw the line, Cause thats where it starts and stops. This whole idea isnt complex. They dont help the community, they make the community at all even possible. Giving them there points and money back isnt unfair. Its not fair politicians start wars they dont fight yet they answer that call still. They are first and foremost the reason we can even have a system to put in to hunt at all. Perhaps we should go to a mandatory draft so more will apppreciate what freedom takes to be secured. Again, you have the right to your opinion but I believe its wrong. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnnie blaze Report post Posted July 22, 2014 I never said anything to disrespect the man or his service. I simply don't think he should get that same tag when he gets home and shouldn't get his money back. Is there such a problem with that? You telling me my opinion is wrong is like me telling you that you're opinion that steak tastes good is wrong. You need to rephrase your sentence to "since you're opinion isn't the same as mine I'm gonna cry about it and tell you that your opinion is wrong." That would describe what's going on perfectly. Not sure how you took what I said and twisted it into what you just said but not sure where you're going with it. According to your way of thinking the military members should get their own rules and benefits of the draw because they help the nation and community. If they do then let's let the cops and fireman have the same benefits. They help out the community as well. But let's not forget about the paramedics and nurses and doctors who work hard to help the community and nation as well. We better make special rules for them too. Get my point? Who is to decide where the line is drawn if the military helps the nation be more safe and free than the cop. Or if the fireman makes the nation more safe than the paramedic and then who gets to decide which one of all of them gets the special privileges in the draw? Nothing else matters if national defense fails or isnt there. We dont have cops or paramedics or fireman or nurses or etc, etc, without keeping the nation as a whole free and safe first from those outside here who would take that away. Sure those jobs are obvisouly important and vital to a society as a whole but without a national defense, they dont exist in a choatic society overun by other nations. They wouldnt be able to exist! The military is where u draw the line, Cause thats where it starts and stops. This whole idea isnt complex. They dont help the community, they make the community at all even possible. Giving them there points and money back isnt unfair. Its not fair politicians start wars they dont fight yet they answer that call still. They are first and foremost the reason we can even have a system to put in to hunt at all. Perhaps we should go to a mandatory draft so more will apppreciate what freedom takes to be secured. Again, you have the right to your opinion but I believe its wrong. I think what 777 is getting at is, not all citizens that join the service are enlisting out of patriotic duty but, because of a great occupation opportunity. Not to say the OP is one of those guys. But it's something to consider. heck, some join just to get a paid education. I see both sides. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bonecollector777 Report post Posted July 22, 2014 OK beardown we will call it even. You think I'm wrong and I think you're wrong. And the world keeps spinning. AND he still doesn't get his money or another tag Share this post Link to post Share on other sites