Unit 1/3b fire

[CouesWhitetail]

Thanks for those that reported the post to me, sorry it took so long to respond, I was out with friends. I have edited the comment. As always, I will ask everyone to please be respectful when debating issues. Surely you are all capable of making your point without derogatory comments like those.

[BeardownAZ]

 

At what point though do we trust the govenrment to say when it should be shut or opened? The land belongs to all of us. Not just those who live there or have fond memories of hunts there. I understand though the ones who work and live there being alittle more aggrevated and on edge. I would be too. You have more legitmate reasons to voice your issues and concerns. But the same bunch we all complain about running this country into the ground, is the same bunch we want to fight forest fires and close public lands. Every year they close Mt Graham usually in Nov-May. Even before the first snow fall. Why??? I know why. They dont like people up there to begin with due to the red squirrel and the telescope but tell us its for our own good so we dont get stuck on the mountain when the snow is too deep. I dont need pencil pushers from a city telling me whats good for me or closing the forest down because they believe they have a monopoly on the power and know whats best. Closing the forest down wont undo drought or idiotic people. Unfortuntely they do shut it down, and it still burns in the summer and people still get stuck in the winter.

 

I would never want to impede on your rights to go anywhere in this great country, but by that same respect I would like you to value my rights, property, livelihood, and most importantly my family by not starting a fire and causing me and many people like you and me to evacuate because of fire. Whether a fire is caused by accident or purpose, naturally or by stupidity the effects last several lifetimes and will directly effect tens of thousands of people both short term and for many years to come. There is a reason to close the forest not to keep you out, but to keep people in their homes and to keep hundred year old trees at a level more than match sticks. You can always tell when someone has gone through a fire or natural disaster when the emergency broadcast system comes on they listen. I know you would not cause a fire, but their are too many stupid people in the US to discriminate.

I respect your opinion, but see it differently. Your same argument or thinking of closing the forest down is similar to what anti gun groups/individuals use when people are killed by firearms. Turn em all in and only police or military should have em. Yet we all know the killings wouldn't stop. You choose to live in the forest, you know there's a risk of fires. Just like hurricanes and tsunamis on the coast. One of the individuals who helped start the Rodeo-Chediski fire worked to put these things out and started it to get work. How do u stop that?? You can't. I understand the emotional connection as well your livelyhood depending on it. But closing it won't stop it. My point is who decides to shut it down, when, and for how long? I simply don't trust the decision makers anymore with that power.

[BeardownAZ]

Heres an example whats in OUR best interest as well. Go along or get arrested.

 

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/07/01/medical-staff-warned-keep-quiet-about-illegal-immigrants-or-face-arrest/

[Jomiba]

 

 

GD right! I could not have said it better myself. aside from closing down the forest how in the heck do you close on the Indian Reservation forest?

My dad taught me this when I was young:

 

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.

ABRAHAM LINCOLN

 

Your ignorant, small minded and racist comment has given us a pretty good idea of what composes your substance as a human being. My wife and children may be "Window Lickers" as you describe them but they understand English, respect for others, and consequences for their actions something I'd be happy to teach you the same way I taught them. Unfortunately for you, your small world only gets smaller when you reveal your character with a comment like this. Now we all can see you for what you are and this community won't put up with someone who is willing to degrade their peers because of where they live, or what they look like. You had an opportunity to share thoughts and ideas with thousands of individuals who share your passions and interests but you crap that away when you begin building walls out of skin color and heritage. I hope Amanda bans you for life, and I will send her an email saying as much. There are too many good people on this site to waste any space with your intellectually weak rhetoric.

 

 

 

 

Are you saying you beat your mentally handicapped wife and children? And youre judging him? Ha

[Jcubed]

I see a lock in the future...

[ready2hunt]

Anyone got an update on the FIRE? We are praying for rain and that the winds don't shift to dramatically before the rain hits Friday.

[standman]

Anyone got an update on the FIRE? We are praying for rain and that the winds don't shift to dramatically before the rain hits Friday.

Here is the latest.

 

 

UPDATED 7/1/14 9:44 A.M. - Chief Deputy Brannon Eagar of the Apache county Sheriff's office updated the Board of Supervisors on the San Juan Fire statistics during their meeting this morning. The San Juan Fire is now at 6,796 acres and still at 5 percent containment. They have full suppression strategies in place and expect containment at 7,000 acres.

 

There are still 96 structures in danger and 25 people are still evacuated at this time.

 

They are expecting dry lighting and down draft winds in the next few days from the expected thunder storms and the county is preparing a plan for potential flooding in the Vernon area when the rains start.

[ready2hunt]

Thanks standman!!! We are going there on this weekend. Hopefully the winds don't push I t too much before the rains come in.

[Flatlander]

Thanks Brian!

[naturebob]

We just had between 3 and 7 " of rani this past weekend. Wish I could of sent some that . Prayin for You Guys........BOB!

[Coach]

_{Hey Bob, looks like your prayers were heard. It's been raining here for the last 3 days. The crews have been working hard, but nothing beats steady rain to get a fire under control. Big thanks to everyone keeping a positive tone on this, the guys who are fighting it, and those sending prayers our way. These kinds of situations stir up a lot of emotions and sometimes folks get heated and say dumb things.}

 

_{Hat's off to the cooler heads. We're all in this together.}