arizonaelkhunter Report post Posted June 9, 2014 Fellow CWT.com hunters. Check out these recent trail cam photos a a jaguar, lions and bear. Lions Tigers and Bears, oh my. Enjoy. We are reporting the Jag to the AZ G&F. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbd1234 Report post Posted June 9, 2014 That's badass Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5guyshunting Report post Posted June 9, 2014 Maybe a silly question, but why do you feel you need to report to g+f? They are nice pics. Just asking. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HuntHarder Report post Posted June 9, 2014 The jaguar looks tiny compared to both the lion and bear. Is it a baby? or is it in a crouched position? Good job getting pics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shanehamblin Report post Posted June 9, 2014 Ya give them a heads up they haven't killed one in awhile 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest oneshot Report post Posted June 9, 2014 Great photos... Poor choice reporting th AZGF, just saying... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PatrickJr Report post Posted June 9, 2014 sorry to rain on your parade, but i am pretty sure that what you think is a jaguar is a bobcat....my reasoning..... 1. The tail of that animal is far too short in order to be a jaguar, a jaguars tail is at least as long as a mountain lions..... 2. the picture of the "jaquar" is taken in the same spot as the bear and lions, correct???? look at the size comparison between the "jaguar" and the lion. a jaguar normally weighs from 124-211 lbs....and mountain lions average 137 lbs. from the looks of that "jaguar" it is about 20 lbs (max) and guess what the average bobcat weight is......15 lbs. 3. as you cam see below the difference of tail length between a jag and a bobcat. you have a bobcat sir.... and it is a mighty fine bobcat, it does have spots that look like they could be on a jag....but is still a bobcat..... bobcat jaguar mtn. lion 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
520HUNT Report post Posted June 9, 2014 Is that a tailless jaguar? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arizonaelkhunter Report post Posted June 9, 2014 These are from my buddies game cam and they are bad butt. As for reporting to the G&F, I know they get some bad press however, the only folks studying them is the G&F. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arizonaelkhunter Report post Posted June 9, 2014 Patrickjr, you certainly have a point after looking at comparison. Oh well, it was fun wishing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZBearhunter Report post Posted June 9, 2014 sorry to rain on your parade, but i am pretty sure that what you think is a jaguar is a bobcat....my reasoning..... 1. The tail of that animal is far too short in order to be a jaguar, a jaguars tail is at least as long as a mountain lions..... 2. the picture of the "jaquar" is taken in the same spot as the bear and lions, correct???? look at the size comparison between the "jaguar" and the lion. a jaguar normally weighs from 124-211 lbs....and mountain lions average 137 lbs. from the looks of that "jaguar" it is about 20 lbs (max) and guess what the average bobcat weight is......15 lbs. 3. as you cam see below the difference of tail length between a jag and a bobcat. you have a bobcat sir.... and it is a mighty fine bobcat, it does have spots that look like they could be on a jag....but is still a bobcat..... bobcat jaguar mtn. lion images.jpgindex.jpgnjk.jpg On the money! You beat me to the punch, great breakdown, and undeniably a bobcat. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZLance Report post Posted June 9, 2014 Not a Jaguar. Most likely a colorful bobcat. As 520Hunt mentioned above it does not have a long tail like a Jaguar or Ocelot would. It appears to have a small Bobbed tail as most bobcats have. Also a close look at the spots and you will see that they are solid spots. jaguars like in the picture Patrick posted above have spots that are circled in black and a darker shade of orange/yellow in the middle. Lastley the size is the biggest giveaway. The size is more consistent with a bobcat. The Jaguar that is roaming southern AZ right now is very similar in size to a large tom mtn lion. Secondly game and fish is the last people I would tell about it. Remember what happened to the last jaguar they found... the! University of Arizona is the one currently running the Jaguar Project for the USFWS. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5guyshunting Report post Posted June 9, 2014 Maybe it should be reported now that we think its a bobcat? Goose chase for g+f? Oh no that could be false reporting better let it rest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZBearhunter Report post Posted June 9, 2014 These are from my buddies game cam and they are bad butt. As for reporting to the G&F, I know they get some bad press however, the only folks studying them is the G&F. Inaccurate information. The Arizona Game and Fish department is not studying the Jaguar, the US Fish and Wildlife Service in Conjunction with the University of Arizona, College of Agriculture and Life Sciences (CALS) are conducting the Jaguar/Ocelot Survey/Study. For those who are unaware, there is a Jaguar in southern Arizona, he is alive and doing very well. Oneshot, reporting to the G&F is a bad idea...? Even if this was a real Jaguar photo, the AZGFD, the USFWS and EVERYONE else knows he's alive and has been wondering about. The University of Arizona is working under contract with the USFWS and is using over 200 trail cameras to monitor Jaguar/Ocelot activity. THEY KNOW HIS EVERY MOVE. Nothing new. The USFWS has actually set up a public Flickr account that has over 65 pictures of the Jaguar and Ocelot. So all those that are worried about the G&F finding out, good luck, cause they already know. The Flickr link is below. If anyone wants anymore facts about the Jaguar and the Study look at the links below. UA to Study Jaguar Presence in Southwest. College of Agriculture and Life Sciences. http://www.cals.arizona.edu/spotlight/ua-study-jaguar-presence-southwest https://www.flickr.com/photos/usfws_southwest/sets/72157632294203147/ P.S. Cool pictures regardless! Thanks for sharing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5guyshunting Report post Posted June 9, 2014 These are from my buddies game cam and they are bad butt. As for reporting to the G&F, I know they get some bad press however, the only folks studying them is the G&F. Inaccurate information. The Arizona Game and Fish department is not studying the Jaguar, the US Fish and Wildlife Service in Conjunction with the University of Arizona, College of Agriculture and Life Sciences (CALS) are conducting the Jaguar/Ocelot Survey/Study. For those who are unaware, there is a Jaguar in southern Arizona, he is alive and doing very well. Oneshot, reporting to the G&F is a bad idea...? Even if this was a real Jaguar photo, the AZGFD, the USFWS and EVERYONE else knows he's alive and has been wondering about. The University of Arizona is working under contract with the USFWS and is using over 200 trail cameras to monitor Jaguar/Ocelot activity. THEY KNOW HIS EVERY MOVE. Nothing new. The USFWS has actually set up a public Flickr account that has over 65 pictures of the Jaguar and Ocelot. So all those that are worried about the G&F finding out, good luck, cause they already know. The Flickr link is below. If anyone wants anymore facts about the Jaguar and the Study look at the links below. I hope they have insurance on the 200 cameras , I have trouble keeping two. UA to Study Jaguar Presence in Southwest. College of Agriculture and Life Sciences. http://www.cals.arizona.edu/spotlight/ua-study-jaguar-presence-southwest https://www.flickr.com/photos/usfws_southwest/sets/72157632294203147/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites