coueshunter84 Report post Posted January 9, 2007 ndaniel, What type of target do you have? I would bet that you have a piece of an arrow in there somewhere. Maybe a misplaced fieldtip, insert, or something, or she shot more then one arrow at the target and hit another head. from what I seen this year those blades are pretty stout. The one I hit my pig with this year had no damage to the blades at all after going through all that bone (hip socket, femur head, back bone, ribs and all). its was just a little dull, to the point where it still shaved hair with all the blades but you kind of had to force it. So the blades got replaced and the tip got touched up with a diamond hone and an Arkansas oil stone. The tip is a needle again and the new blades take hair easily. And it still spins perfectly. Cant ask for much better then that. If you have the chance I would replace any blades she has already shot, except mabey one or 2 heads, and use those for practice and leave the rest spun up and ready to kill with. That way she can still practice with her broadheads , without dulling any of her hunting arrows. And carry an extra bunch of blades with you when she hunts, One shot and they need to be replaced. Thats one bad thing about heads that you cannot resharpen yourself. You have to have extra blades. And might paper tune it again if those heads are hitting that far from the field points. Her rest or knocking point might be off a little. Or during the off season take it to a shop and get it tuned up good. The shop I use ran $75 per bow last year for new custom string, and cables, and what he calls a " supertune" where he takes everything apart , lubes everything and recenters the rest and the peep on the new string . Never have any problems with anything flying different other then increased drag on the blades causing them to drop a little faster, as in the case of the T-locs with me. Out past 50 yards they start dropping off just a little. Maybe a couple of inches compared to the ultimate steels and mechs. enough to notice it that far out but no difference to speak of closer then that. Greyghost, Same thing with the 75gr. untimate steels. You have to crank them in pretty good to get that little keeper washer to stay put and not release the blades. If you look at the heads when you put them together it does not take much movement at the tail end of the flange to get the tip to release from under the front, so any movement fo the head will cause them to turn loose Just make sure that you take care of the arrow shaft while tightening them. I use a piece of 7-9 ounce leather and a good pair of sidelock pliers, the red loc-tite, and a broadhead wrench that has a handle on it. Once you get them really tight you should not ahve to worry about losing another blade. Just make sure you spin them before you put them in your quiver. I have found that if you actually try to turn the insert while doing this then thats about how tight it needs to be. Granted I do not look forward to replacing the blades on them, but dont want to lose another blade, so I deal with it. Kind of a royal pain in the posterior to get them all in, but once you get it finished LOL.. You already know what kind of damage they can do with 2 of the 3 blades missing, think of what it would have looked like if all 3 had stayed intact. Oh and if your shooting with the HIT system from Easton or the other one , make sure the inserts were not set all the way in. The last couple of packages of the untimate steels I bought. state in the "warnings" not to use them in the HIT system. I just either hav ethe inserts set a little shallower or buy them cut and do it myself. They have short shanks and will only get a few threads if any at all unless you do something to work it along with those arrows. Good luck and good hunting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost85 Report post Posted January 10, 2007 coueshunter, i greatly appreciate the advice, i love the broadheads but considered switching because of that problem....and no, i dont shoot the HIT arrows, heard lots of good about them, but also some negatives, i'll just stick with my radial X-weaves, i drove the arrow in my last couse straight through a shoulder-blade and a rib, and zero damage to the arrow, and the one blade head still had great penetration and shot a leg clean off of my pig (hit him in the shin) with zero damage to the arrow. they are like shooting a titanium rod! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dave Report post Posted January 10, 2007 Just curious if any of you have done any testing with the new Muzzy MX3 or MX4? I have tested Wacem broadheads and found they fly exactly like field tips. Have also tested them shooting through paper and find they shoot the same as field tips and do not seem to change the spine or the FOC of the arrow significantly. Just wondered if any of you have done the same with the new shorter Muzzy’s? It is a project I plan to do but haven’t got around to it yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites