7/19 Judge rules AZ must fix now

[Red Rabbit]

Judge Broomfield ruled that AZ G&F must fix the draw immediately, and not next year as G&F petitioned. Thus, the commission will issue another 805 bull elk and deer tags on top of those issued in the original draw.

 

http://www.azgfd.com/artman/publish/article_126.shtml

[Red Rabbit]

Here are the extra tag allotments(which I copied from a post on MM)

 

HERE IS THE STORY THERE WILL BE NO REDARW. THEY WILL ADD ADDIONAL TAGS TO THE FOLLOWING HUNTS. FOR DEER 127 TAGS 117 NONRES. 10 RES. HUNT #1013 4 TAGS, #1014 12 TAGS, 1016 30 TAGS, # 1018 2 TAGS, #1019 14 TAGS, #1020 22 TAGS, #1021 13 TAGS, #1022 17 TAGS, #1129 13 TAGS. THESE ARE ALL DEER HUNTS AFFECTED. FOR ELK HUNT #'S 3003 2 TAGS, #3004 3 TAGS, #3005 2 TAGS, #3006 11 TAGS, #3007 1 TAG, #3008 1 TAG, #3010 7 TAGS, #3011 6 TAGS, #3012 4 TAGS, #3020 4 TAGS, #3023 80 TAGS, #3024 27 TAGS, #3025 105 TAGS, #3027 29 TAGS, #3028 1 TAG, #3029 17 TAGS, #3030 47 TAGS, #3107 4 TAGS, #3108 2 TAGS, #3109 2 TAGS, #3110 6 TAGS, #3111 35 TAGS, #3116 20 TAGS, #3117 4 TAGS, #3118 3 TAGS, #3119 4 TAGS, #3120 8 TAGS, #3121 14 TAGS, #3122 15 TAGS, #3123 8 TAGS, #3124 11 TAGS, #3125 13 TAGS, #3126 1 TAG, #3128 23 TAGS, #3129 16 TAGS, #3130 17 TAGS, #3131 15 TAGS, #3132 27 TAGS, #3133 33 TAGS, #3134 27 TAGS, #3135 3 TAGS, #3140 20 TAGS THIS IS A TOTAL OF 678, 39 WILL BE RES, 639 WILL BE NONRES AND COULD POSSIBLY BE POSTED BY TOMORROW.

[Guest Ernesto C]

Can some body help me please? By giving out more permits,aren't thos units going to be over hunted? If we want quality trophy hunts I wont be sorprise if in the future we go to 3 or 4 pointer or better in those units trying to gain some quality deer/elk from there. Any body??

 

May the Lord bless me and you always.

 

Thank You.

 

Ernesto C.

[bullwidgeon]

This is a one time fix Ernesto. Next year it will not be done. That being said, Pete Cimallero (I am sure I probably spelled that wrong) from the Arizona Deer Association did say he was disturbed by the increased amount of muley tags on the Strip this year in his speech to the commission. Pete usually knows what he is talking about and is very active in wildlife conservation in this state. So in short, yes, this does probably strain the resource this year a little. The different regional offices had this plan run by them on Friday and they determined that no significant long range biological impact will result from the increases this year but I have my doubts about certain units. I have never been to unit 10 but they added alot of bull tags to that unit in particular. 116 extra tags to be exact, so 116 bulls could be killed there this year that normally would live to be lion food or grow another year and I would think that would negatively damage the herd for a few years, but what do I know. Probably alot of those tags will go unfilled though because they are for the late hunt and I don't think the late hunt has very high sucess rates. Anyways, hopefully by next year we can all figure out something a little better. It is important to make as many commission meetings as possible if not to speak, then to show your support and keep track of exactly what will be going on come April when this process starts all over again.

 

Bret Mattausch

[az4life]

I completely agree that it is going to be tougher for folks drawn in one of the "bonus tag" hunt areas to get trophy deer and elk. It will likely take a couple years to gain back the Game we will lose.

What we have lost in terms of the "Big Picture" is in-calculable. This ruling has delt a major blow to hunting. I just pray the 10th circuit court finds for Wyo in theri case. Then we may have a shot at over-turning with the Supreme court.

[Guest Lark Hubbard]

bullwidgeon, were you there yesterday? if so, why dincha look me up? i did meet allen taylor. he's not near as ugly or smelly as you said he was. and he didn't seem like a pervert, to me anyway. where'd you get all that info at? he didn't yell at me or nothin' over the little april fools joke either..........

[bullwidgeon]

Lark,

I looked and looked but I didnt see anyone I thought was ugly enough to be you and Allen . I see you and your dad drew 28 general, congrats. Just make sure you two flop big carp and leave the coues for my December tag there .

No seriously, I got there a few minutes late just as people were walking into the meeting. I had a green and white Hawaiin shirt, shorts and a green hat on. I was suprised they offered the extra tags, but I have a feeling they are going to be like a lazy old mule going forward. They are not going to decide anything unless the public shows up and bugs them constantly about next year. Much like most state agencies they seem reactionary for the most part, not proactive.

 

Bret M.

Edited January 1, 1970 by bullwidgeon