Coues Kid Report post Posted March 6, 2014 Correct me If I'm wrong but I think a lion kills a deer or sheep every 3 days or so. It might be longer not sure anybody have the correct answer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naturegirl Report post Posted March 6, 2014 With the amount of research you would think that would go into any re-introduction they would've done a lion survey prior to the release. Makes me feel like the sheep were free meals given to the lions This doesn't appear to be a very successful re-introduction to have 50% of the sheep lost within such a short time. Very sad for the sheep and sad for the lions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jim Report post Posted March 6, 2014 Wow a hundred lions in that small patch and you guy's that live down there cant glass them up and kill a lion. I would think that should be the most popular spot in AZ for the guy's that want to kill a lion(lol). I do have to agree it does not sound like this was planned out well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bowhuntaz1 Report post Posted March 6, 2014 Game and fish want to put 60 more sheep on the dinner table by 2015... http://azstarnet.com/news/local/more-bighorns-die-mountain-lion-killed-in-catalinas/article_9b04ed95-4f80-5960-b4df-a578993c2dcd.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bonecollector777 Report post Posted March 6, 2014 />Correct me If I'm wrong but I think a lion kills a deer or sheep every 3 days or so. It might be longer not sure anybody have the correct answerThat's not true at all. . Even if deer hunters tell you that. Just do the math. Approximately 2000 lions in arizona. Let's say 1/4 are kittens that don't kill. So 1500 deer eaters. 1500X122 Deer a year means that 183,000 deer die every year. Throw in deer killed by hunters and that's over 200,000 deer a year. We would run out of deer within a year. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coues Kid Report post Posted March 6, 2014 Ya I thought it didn't sound right guy told me that up in 23 when i was on a elk hunt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buffhunter Report post Posted March 6, 2014 />3 lions wouldent that roughly save 150 deer per year?[/quo. ] False. . A lion doesn't kill a deer a week. I don't know but that is what I have been told from a couple of my friends that are retired G nF officers. They also have had male lions killing deer just to kill them and not even eat them. But who knows? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wayno945 Report post Posted March 6, 2014 http://billingsgazette.com/lifestyles/recreation/ferocious-appetites-study-finds-mountain-lions-may-be-eating-more/article_d9cf046b-2c47-539f-a267-972e72e570b6.html 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jim Report post Posted March 6, 2014 Wayno you have went and used a factual artical,l that will screw up everything on here(lol). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wayno945 Report post Posted March 7, 2014 Wayno you have went and used a factual artical,l that will screw up everything on here(lol). My bad lol. That study was about lions in a colder climate so I would guess they require a higher caloric intake than the ones here in Arizona. Does anyone know of any similar studies conducted in the Southwest? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZLance Report post Posted March 7, 2014 /> Wayno you have went and used a factual artical,l that will screw up everything on here(lol). My bad lol. That study was about lions in a colder climate so I would guess they require a higher caloric intake than the ones here in Arizona. Does anyone know of any similar studies conducted in the Southwest? AZ G&F is currently studying lions in the Catalina Mountains... and so far it turns out that it is correct, they kill about 1 sheep a week. Study is ongoing for at least another 15 bighorns. Then they will re evaluate and decide if they want to continue studying(feeding) the lions. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bowhuntaz1 Report post Posted March 7, 2014 Study is ongoing for at least another 15 bighorns. I just shot cold beer out of my nose. ha ha ha ha ha Sad but true... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PatrickJr Report post Posted March 7, 2014 some people should make some desert bighorn Montana decoys with integrated meat/sheep scent on them and set them up in the catalinas with a hunter watching the decoy at all times, you might get a few lions killed. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bonecollector777 Report post Posted March 7, 2014 Wayno you have went and used a factual artical,l that will screw up everything on here(lol). Factual article or not do the simple math. Doesn't take a genius to see that if we have 200,000 deer in Arizona and lions and hunters kill over 200,000 deer a year after 1 year there would be nothing left. 200,000-201,000= -1000= no deer= impossible that lions eat a deer every 3 days or every 7 days for that matter. I have heard it many times from avid deer hunters or from the AZGFD but the numbers don't lie. AZGFD actually says there are over 4000 lions in Arizona so think about that one. 3000 deer killers on the loose relentlessly killing deer every 3-5 days plus the AZGFD relentlessly giving out way to many tags equals over 400,000 deer dying in Arizona alone. Another thing to think about. All of us on the site are out in the woods more in one year than most people their whole lives. I bet you can count on one hand how many lion kills you have found. I bet I can tell you that of the hundreds of days in the woods a year I have found 1 lion kill. If these lions are leaving a trail of destruction where is the evidence? Now leaving 31 sheep in front of 30+ lions is a different story. Just like if someone left a big T bone steak in front of me day after day. And then after I ate it they brought me more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ForkHorn Report post Posted March 7, 2014 That they kill once a week is probably accurate but there is a lot more "food" out there than just deer.... cattle/calves, Javelina, turkey, small game, elk up north, etc... in AZ I bet deer make up a fraction (25%??) Of a mountain lion's diet.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
