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[ctafoya]

I pay for all of my kids hunting stuff. At the end of the day it's all about going out and doing something together and putting food on the table. We all benefit from that so I pick up the tab. Everything else they half to work for.

[singleshot]

I pay for all of my kids hunting stuff. At the end of the day it's all about going out and doing something together and putting food on the table. We all benefit from that so I pick up the tab. Everything else they half to work for. .

I pay for my adult children's licenses and tag fees also. If they get drawn I get to go and spend some time with them. Back when all species applications were due at the same time for the fall hunts, and they took the money up front, we were into it over $ 1500.00. It was a lot of money, but I always made sure I had it one way or the other.

As far as the new trucks go, they have one guy for each unit down here in South eastern AZ. The units are huge and they have been driving the same trucks for at least 3 years. It sucks breaking down, by yourself, and cell phone and mobile radio coverage is limited. As much as those trucks get beat I would trade them off every couple years also.

[NMBPMAN]

/>Just curious what everyone thinks about this. . Game and Fish depends greatly depends on us hunters and fishermen to function. To be exact the receive around 28 million dollars just in license and tag fees (That's before the price raise this year) plus another 17 million from taxes on hunting and fishing supplies. Basically around 50% of their money comes from us just because we love to hunt. They know that and have obviously been abusing their duties.

1.They work for the people (US) yet all they care about are themselves and their new trucks and government retirement plans.

2.Their website for the draw has about as many problems as the healthcare.gov website. Yet they don't improve it and it crashes every year.

3. They have supported introduction of Mexican wolves simply to make money from the federal government. They know Mexican wolves will do absolutely no good for the other wildlife here in the state.

4. They have given out so many tags in some areas that the population of certain animals is so low you can't find a decent buck or bull.

5.They feel they are above the law because they are the law. They do what they want without any fear of any consequences because they know nothing will happen to them. See Shawn Wagner case just for one example.

6. They don't even have enough people to answer a phone call at their offices.

7. They waste millions of dollars every year driving their commissioner and employees to expos and banquets and hunts.

8. They kill Jaguars with snares and are killing bighorn sheep on a daily basis (Catlina Mountains)

9. To sum it up, They are just plain worthless, money hungry, and selfish.

So what I'm trying to get at is if there anything we can do to stop them or make things change? They obviously don't listen to us at public meetings and it's not like we can vote them out. So do they have us by the ba**s and know we can't stop them?

 

If something doesn't change soon were gonna lose our youth hunters. I already know a lot of people not putting in because even if they put in and don't draw it costs their family $250+. And if they get drawn it's way over $500 per average family. All the while azgfd is buying their new toys with the cash and paying their retired employees more than we make at a regular job. Just wondering if there are any ideas to get something done.

An all out boycott of the draw would be practically impossible due to losing bonus points by not putting in. Any other ideas to let azgfd were tired of it?

You shouldn't put in for tags and really teach these bad men who's really running this show, that'd show them.

[bonecollector777]

Little late comin' in with that one. . I think maybe 5-6 guys before you said the same idiotic thing. Good try though trying to say something worthwhile. Maybe next time.

[Big Tub]

I would be glad to have a higher draw odds of you all don't put in.

 

Note that the $5 youth hunt AND fish is quite a deal. Stop your whining!