elkaholic Report post Posted May 20, 2014 Joey- there is one other opinion on easy hunting - from a guy who grew up here you look to be a young man meaning mid 20's maybe 30 Next time you go out - try using what a lot of us used when we were your age here in Az. usually the 3 popular where guns - 30-30 - 308 - 30-06 obviously many others were used- some had scopes - all lot didn't Optics - a 4 power tasco/ bushnell - maybe a set of 7x35 bino's most of us used a metal boyscout backpack- caring a metal canteen or bodabag for the days hunt 2 wheel drive truck but probably a car -90% of all roads were dirt ,once you were 10 miles from downtown phx- just getting out and back in one piece was one of the biggest challenges hunting items included a good knife - a small tent - flashlight - coleman lantern- icechest- piece of rope - sleeping bag or canvas tarp- poncho it, it usually was the tent for the night away from the car or just in case it did rain I'm sure everyone may have used other things - some more- some less next time you go hunting out here try hunting without all modern advantages that make your hunting - really rather easy 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elkhunter1 Report post Posted May 20, 2014 Joey- there is one other opinion on easy hunting - from a guy who grew up here you look to be a young man meaning mid 20's maybe 30 Next time you go out - try using what a lot of us used when we were your age here in Az. usually the 3 popular where guns - 30-30 - 308 - 30-06 obviously many others were used- some had scopes - all lot didn't Optics - a 4 power tasco/ bushnell - maybe a set of 7x35 bino's most of us used a metal boyscout backpack- caring a metal canteen or bodabag for the days hunt 2 wheel drive truck but probably a car -90% of all roads were dirt ,once you were 10 miles from downtown phx- just getting out and back in one piece was one of the biggest challenges hunting items included a good knife - a small tent - flashlight - coleman lantern- icechest- piece of rope - sleeping bag or canvas tarp- poncho it, it usually was the tent for the night away from the car or just in case it did rain I'm sure everyone may have used other things - some more- some less next time you go hunting out here try hunting without all modern advantages that make your hunting - really rather easy My brothers and I took his 1967 Chevy Belaire put spacers in he coil springs bigger shocks and 235 75 R 15's under it. That was our hunting rig. I used a Win. 30-30 with a Tasco 4x scope. I killed several Muleys, the only Coues killed was wit hmy Brothers Win. 30-06 with same type scope. A 300 yard shot was a very far one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigorange Report post Posted May 20, 2014 We have a lot of guys that use heated blinds here. The blinds are mfg by Ford, Chevy, Dodge and Toyota. They slowly crawl the back roads looking for roadside targets. Who out here uses the heater? I don't think I used mine at all last season. My old Ford blind had heated leather seats...I sort of miss those seats even when it's not really cold. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Donkey Report post Posted May 21, 2014 The new Chevy blind has both heated and cooled seats. The SwampAss factor will be at a all time low this August while cruising the blind around looking to give a buck the chrome horn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joey lvr Report post Posted May 24, 2014 Joey- there is one other opinion on easy hunting - from a guy who grew up here you look to be a young man meaning mid 20's maybe 30 Next time you go out - try using what a lot of us used when we were your age here in Az. usually the 3 popular where guns - 30-30 - 308 - 30-06 obviously many others were used- some had scopes - all lot didn't Optics - a 4 power tasco/ bushnell - maybe a set of 7x35 bino's most of us used a metal boyscout backpack- caring a metal canteen or bodabag for the days hunt 2 wheel drive truck but probably a car -90% of all roads were dirt ,once you were 10 miles from downtown phx- just getting out and back in one piece was one of the biggest challenges hunting items included a good knife - a small tent - flashlight - coleman lantern- icechest- piece of rope - sleeping bag or canvas tarp- poncho it, it usually was the tent for the night away from the car or just in case it did rain I'm sure everyone may have used other things - some more- some less next time you go hunting out here try hunting without all modern advantages that make your hunting - really rather easy I understand what your saying. Yes all the new advances in today's hunting makes things a lot easier then 20 years ago or so. But I can say a couple things that I am proud of and that is I put my boots on and pack and work for it regardless if I kill or not. I love the hunt the chase the sweat and frustration. I don't have a lot of money to buy the latest and greatest but I male due. Yes I shouldn't have probably started this post but of well. I ment no disrespect. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joey lvr Report post Posted May 24, 2014 I just want to hunt!! Its been a long year guys! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elkaholic Report post Posted May 24, 2014 sorry - I tend to rant - lol no hostility meant - I love to hunt also - its not like we can go out every yr -yr in and yr out and have tags for does, bucks during archery - muzzy handgun and rifle - like a lot of these "eastern " states - where they take 30 animals a yr go out hunt hard - that's what its all about - have fun I personally do not think sitting in a box waiting for "programed " animals to show -up is that much fun I do know that in a lot of private areas back east - you are very limited in where you hunt and have to take advantage of every possible technique to harvest an animal - I'd sit in a box over looking a hay bail in sub zero weather - if it was my only opportunity .! hope everyone gets the chance to chase and tag a buck this fall - good luck in the draw guys and gals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naturegirl Report post Posted May 24, 2014 I'm planning a trip back east and I'm making the trip what I want it to be. I have options. I can hunt either small private land areas or small public land areas or make the long drive to a national forest, camp, and hunt more like I hunt here. The last is what I've picked. I believe it will require more effort than if I pick option #1 or option #2, but I don't want to hunt like what the original poster was talking about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elkhunter1 Report post Posted May 25, 2014 I'm planning a trip back east and I'm making the trip what I want it to be. I have options. I can hunt either small private land areas or small public land areas or make the long drive to a national park, camp, and hunt more like I hunt here. The last is what I've picked. I believe it will require more effort than if I pick option #1 or option #2, but I don't want to hunt like what the original poster was talking about. Boy, you definitely put some research into your trip, hope you are successful. Want a full report when you return. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elkaholic Report post Posted May 25, 2014 I hope to make a trip for the wisc general deer season - from the 15th nov to the 15 of dec - yes a whole month . so I can hunt the archery - rifle and muzzleloader - all on the same tag- its only one buck but I can hunt all 3 season if that's what it takes ! doe tags are like 2.50 not sure on the limit but they are generous - lol that way if and when I draw my second dec. tag I can just get home and hunt here too or maybe an oct tag before I leave - lol plans are to drop a few does early and have sausage made up to ship home lots of areas for public hunting though they do get crowded - like I mentioned on a similar trip 2 yrs ago opening day rifle - thousands of shots - almost non stop from dawn to dusk coming from every direction in a relative small area of 5 square miles - as I don't think you can hear a rifle shot any father than that in the north wooded areas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest oneshot Report post Posted May 25, 2014 I use some of my western hunting skills to make my eastern hunting "easyer", ie: glassing to ID mature bucks, using my feet to cover large areas of cover and setting-up where I can overlook a large piece of terrain(rifle hunting)... And I use some of my eastern hunting skills to make my western hunting "easyer", locating prime stand/blind locations in constricted terrain, finding beaten, fresh trails and foods deer are eating... When I'm back in NY, I hunt like I'm in Az.... When I'm in Az, I hunt like I'm in NY... Successfull in both states getting on game, and I'm Hunting so it's all Gooood... ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naturegirl Report post Posted May 25, 2014 Edited....national forest not national park. Knew I said that one wrong so I came back for the edit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MT_Sourdough Report post Posted May 25, 2014 Ah, heck. I am guilty of it all including having opinions of how others hunt. Lotsa opinions out there. I remember sitting in a bar up along the Big Hole in Montana, (one of the best hunting locations in the world - Moose, Elk, Mule Deer, Whitetail Deer, Antelope, sheep, goats, bears, cats, wolves, did I forget something) and I was talking with my friends from the area and said to them "I like to make elk hunting sporting". They all exploded with thunderous laughter. Among a dozen or so of us in the bar, I was alone with that sentiment. Their general attitude is wait till the snow drives the elk down to where a person could shoot the elk and then drive right up to it. Otherwise, they wont wast their time. Arizona forces people to be a certain kind of hunter. Some of it is the terrain, but the biggest obstacle is the number of hunters to the number of game. Here, your lucky when you get a tag. Arizona, is an amazing place to hunt, though. The number of amazing views a guy sees in a day, discovering Indian ruins and remote homesteads, and vast wide open spaciousness is very special her in AZ for me.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alpinebullwinkle Report post Posted May 25, 2014 Interesting dialog on this one. I was born and raised in Syracuse, New York and all of my hunting experiences were there the first 10 years. Now had 43 fantastic years in Arizona (mostly unit #27) and have to say there is no comparison of both experiences. I am so lucky to have experienced what I have in Arizona. Still have a cousin that works his butt off all summer for the privilge of hunting about 100 acres of farm land with about 3 other groups. I really feel sorry for him but he makes the best of the situation. His only advantage he can hunt longer for deer and harvest 5 deer per season....but I am still not jealous! Up until the Wallow Fire I could hunt deer or elk in my favorite spots of unit #27 and hardly ever see another hunter. Since the Wallow Fire burned up about 50% of unit #27 I now have to dance "cheek to cheek" with other hunters the whole hunt. Seems that 90% of the hunters are now hunting 10% of the real estate since the fire. A very frustrating change for unit #27 and probably very much the same for unit #1. We lost some of our edge due to the failed forest management policies by the USFS the last 25 years or so. The positive is....... I am hearing some USFS admit their failed policies....... and willing to change going forward. Let's hope for the next generations benefit!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildwoody Report post Posted May 25, 2014 yep there hunters Share this post Link to post Share on other sites