eastern hunting

[trphyhntr]

timers

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[Ihuntcoues]

LOL ... Point being if we complain about things we dont like ... they (G&F) will take them away from everyone... Just like live scents and deer marketed mineral licks... What next trail cams.... Just be happy we have such great opportunities to hunt in out own state... I hunt over water Holes or major Trails and use trail cams to get info. Would hate to lose tools in arsenal ... Just saying

[trphyhntr]

the fact that we, for the most part, hunt nothing but public land makes all the difference.

[joey lvr]

Dang I stird the cooliad on this one lol. Very true at least they are doing it over there and as was stated us hunters have to stick together but to each his own. I just want to hunt already!! And maybe we are spoiled I'm lucky I can drive 15 minutes from my house and glass up some coues.

[Scooter]

Having hunted in Texas I can tell you that most of the work comes before the actual hunting season. Plus, if AZ was anything like TX as far as hunting leases go... let me just say the mantra of "pure" no-bait-no-fence hunting might change after a couple years of paying $4k-5K per year for a marginal lease in an antler-restricted county and getting skunked on bucks. Maybe not. But that's the game they play in Texas. I personally like and have employed both methods of chasing whitetails... one of them requiring more "chasing" than the other. I started my Hunting career in Western New York and I would have to be careful what gets labled "eastern hunting" and what gets labled as "Mid-Western" hunting. The Tecomate guys are not what I'd consider "Eastern".

[johnnie blaze]

I'd rather hunt here

[Coues assassin]

We have a lot of guys that use heated blinds here. The blinds are mfg by Ford, Chevy, Dodge and Toyota. They slowly crawl the back roads looking for roadside targets.

 

 

Thought this was funny was archery hunting the last day of the season a few days ago and driving out of my spot after sitting a waterhole all morning saw another truck headed my way. Well I was headed back to camp grab lunch and then head back out. They stop and ask if we saw any deer I told the bad news and said no and they drove off. Well later on in the day I see them driving slowly on a different road very close to where I first saw them stopping every so often to look out the window through binoculars that were mounted onto the window! I thought now that is road hunting at its finest! Keep in mind they were archery deer hunting...from the truck. It blew my mind

[DesertBull]

I just like to shoot things and eat their flesh. I'll do it new school, old school, after school, no school, in a heated blind, tree stand, top of a mountain, high fence, low fence, no fence, in boat with a goat in the house with a mouse. Single shot, semi auto with a 30 rnd mag, bolt action, lever action, muzzleloader, compound, recurve, air rifle, sling shot, boom a rang....dead is dead and rhe freezer is empty.

[bojangles]

I just like to shoot things and eat their flesh. I'll do it new school, old school, after school, no school, in a heated blind, tree stand, top of a mountain, high fence, low fence, no fence, in boat with a goat in the house with a mouse. Single shot, semi auto with a 30 rnd mag, bolt action, lever action, muzzleloader, compound, recurve, air rifle, sling shot, boom a rang....dead is dead and rhe freezer is empty.

 

 

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!!!!

[jhedg]

We are lucky and spoiled here in the west. If you ever had to live back in the States where you either had to own land, lease land, or fight with all the hoards of people on what small acres of public land offered just to hunt you may see things a little different.

 

I have lived there and I still hunt there on my brothers property, I have set in the tree stands and elevated wood box blinds with a roof for hours and hours. I nearly frost bit my toe's when I was a kid just hoping a buck would come by on our little 40 acres of hard woods. But this isnt high fence hunting. It is however NOT public land, it is private. Your only allowed to hunt your private land that you own so you have to try to figure out how to get those deer to live on your land and not your neighbors. So where legal is where feeders and food plots come in. That's where topping off trees and leaving the tops on the ground for cover and bedding area's come in. Those hunters go to a LOT of work and money year around to make their 30 to 40 acres enticing for deer. And they freeze their hind ends off in sometimes brutal conditions to hunt. Just what hard work do we do out here? Put up trail cams? Heaters in a box blind, I dont see an issue. Id like to see some of the spoiled western hunters sit for hours seeing nothing, freezing for hours and not allowed to go anywhere else but on the property they leased or own. And as bigorange stated, there is a lot of strategy that goes into that kind of hunting... and yes, it is hunting.

 

If you say no way, you would move then I say only if you can find a job to support you and your family. I also say if everyone was to do that we wouldn't have the huge amount of public land we have now to hunt. Quit complaining about others methods, let them do what they do or have them in your favorite public land hunting spot. If its not for you so be it but I dont understand why your getting so worked up over something you would never do or why you would complain about their so called method of hunting... at least they are doing it somewhere else and not in your state.

 

GBA

I would have to agree with this post. After hunting out East(PA/WV/VA) on public land most of my adult life some 30 yrs. The hunting methods are way!!!! different. Hunting out east you have to understand deer, what makes them tick, what makes them tick one hour to the next. A food plot is just that a plot. You put it somewhere, the trick is not the food plot the trick is where to put the food plot. Now I have never hunted over a food plot out east, but I understand the why's of it. After moving back here from being raised out here. Still love the hunting, but do not get anywhere near excited as I did out east. Let me tell you why. First year I move back I don't draw my area. The draw is another story in itself. I get a leftover 36a tag so I start asking so whats the strategy out here. out of 30 people I would say 95% off them said the same thing SCOUT awesome I love getting out. The second was get way up and glass/glass/glass/glass, then glass some more. So I say are you kidding they all say nope. So I follow the advice, and what do you know 1st year success a spike. So I go gut all of I don't know the 17lbs he weighed, threw him over my shoulder, took to the butcher got my 8lbs of meat. Wow awesome Coues my first year. So now for the next whole year I am thinking. Wow I don't have to figure out much, like travel routs, travel routes on the way to bedding areas, travel routes on the way to feeding areas, funnels, is the funnel on the way to a bedding area, or a feeding area. Rubs/Scrapes this years last years how fresh hours/days/minutes. Stand placement in relation to all the above. Scent elimination what scent, what scent what time of year Raccoon, or Fox pee, or just earth. Mock Scrape, was I scent free making my Mock scrape. Do I need to cut a shooting lane if I use a stand. Stalking I mean stalking not seeing your deer at 1 and a half miles, and putting on a awesome stalk to get 650yds away to shoot with your rest aided laser beam. I mean a stalk where it is 10 degrees outside with the wind blowing, making it negative!! then taking step where everything around you is frozen and the ground sounds like its breaking up to make a 50yd shot because the the woods are so thick in your bright orange bubble suite!! not to mention if you stand hunt sitting in that sucker for 12-14hrs without moving while its friken 2 degrees outside and your teeth are rattling in your mouth, and your body is shaking uncontrollably. BANG my deer is dead. Ask most eastern hunters the best part after the kill, ah ya the guttin!!!!! finally your time to warm your hands. Then the worst a couple mile drag of a 150lb animal back to the truck in my bright orange bubble suit. Now this is not a jab at southern AZ hunting its hunting, just different. I know one thing I have been successful all but 2yrs my entire life hunting 1 time in 30yrs out east, and 1 time in 2yrs here. The second I got home after my hunts out east I was planning my next year. Dropping money into the economy like crazy. I think I have spent money on gas and tags out here that's about it. East West it does not matter lets respect each others way of hunting in the end its all about our kids, and their kids, and what we teach them to pass on.

[Presmyk]

timers

 

That is the best reply to a stupid question I have heard in a while lol

[couesmagnet]

The kind of hunting described above is still hunting, just a diff. kind of hunting. Obviously western style hunting is harder and more challenging, but the other way is still hunting. I have the same kind of argument with fly fishing people who usually have the same attitude to me standing there with a spinning rod in my hand. The best place to witness this dichotomy of attitudes is the san juan river in new mexico. I almost got run off the river by several fly fisherman there once when i pulled out my spin cast set up. After a good heckling from the fly guys i made it to the river and caught 25 fish to their 1 fish. All they could say was i was cheating with a spinner rod, and that's why i caught so many. I in return said i came here to catch fish and that's it!!! My pole was bent over for 2 hours straight, and i had a smile from ear to ear. Kind of the same analogy with diff styles of hunting. As long as your happy doing it how you do it, have fun a don't look back!!!

[elkaholic]

sitting on top of a hill on a rock in 80+ degrees or on a rock/wooden bench in a snow storm - both hurt my asss- both can be uncomfortable as heck --- one kinda burns - well so does the other after frostbite .

 

yes there are extreme's related to both kinds of hunting.

 

Anyone who doesn't think hunting has changed over the yrs - isn't really hunting

 

you hunt depending on the conditions - here we got no choice - most western style /places its 90% open country/ state land - lots of spots but most I know put out trail cameras and try to attract deer to a given area or spot too- whats the difference

 

most eastern is private and limited access - it's a different world than we know -

 

sitting a tank or sitting a food plot not much difference -

 

look at all the tree stands here around tanks - you can bet money if huge walled blinds were legal in our national forests - we'd see and use them here too!!

 

Lets all just be happy we can still hunt.

 

As far as these shows - if they upset you - why in the heck are you watching them !

I find most entertaining - some are good and some aren't -

[trphyhntr]

The kind of hunting described above is still hunting, just a diff. kind of hunting. Obviously western style hunting is harder and more challenging, but the other way is still hunting. I have the same kind of argument with fly fishing people who usually have the same attitude to me standing there with a spinning rod in my hand. The best place to witness this dichotomy of attitudes is the san juan river in new mexico. I almost got run off the river by several fly fisherman there once when i pulled out my spin cast set up. After a good heckling from the fly guys i made it to the river and caught 25 fish to their 1 fish. All they could say was i was cheating with a spinner rod, and that's why i caught so many. I in return said i came here to catch fish and that's it!!! My pole was bent over for 2 hours straight, and i had a smile from ear to ear. Kind of the same analogy with diff styles of hunting. As long as your happy doing it how you do it, have fun a don't look back!!!

should have told them to shove their fairy wands where the sun dont shine. but they fly fish, so they probably like that kind of thing.

[Elkhunter1]

We have a lot of guys that use heated blinds here. The blinds are mfg by Ford, Chevy, Dodge and Toyota. They slowly crawl the back roads looking for roadside targets.

Who out here uses the heater? I don't think I used mine at all last season.