AZbowhntr Report post Posted January 30, 2014 Hunting the rez isn't near as expensive as hunting in Mexico. I hunted Mexico this last year and didn't end up shooting anything. Saw lots of bucks just nothing big enough to shoot. So I could have saved about 2K and hunted the rez. You tell me which is the better deal. And you don't have to worry about a dozen other hunters on every ridge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seldom Drawn Report post Posted January 30, 2014 Hunting the rez isn't near as expensive as hunting in Mexico. I hunted Mexico this last year and didn't end up shooting anything. Saw lots of bucks just nothing big enough to shoot. So I could have saved about 2K and hunted the rez. You tell me which is the better deal. And you don't have to worry about a dozen other hunters on every ridge. My son in laws grandpa has a big ranch in Mexico I could never bring myself to shoot one it's like shooting cattle,how much did you pay to not kill in Mexico.If I were you I wouldn't book with whoever you did, no hunting pressure there what so ever,did you see pics of previous kills on this ranch.are you a newbie to hunting how many years have you hunted cows deer. And you could spend $2,000 dollars scouting southern az and kill a 100 inch buck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cramerhunts Report post Posted January 30, 2014 Hunting the rez isn't near as expensive as hunting in Mexico. I hunted Mexico this last year and didn't end up shooting anything. Saw lots of bucks just nothing big enough to shoot. So I could have saved about 2K and hunted the rez. You tell me which is the better deal. And you don't have to worry about a dozen other hunters on every ridge. My son in laws grandpa has a big ranch in Mexico I could never bring myself to shoot one it's like shooting cattle,how much did you pay to not kill in Mexico.If I were you I wouldn't book with whoever you did, no hunting pressure there what so ever,did you see pics of previous kills on this ranch.are you a newbie to hunting how many years have you hunted cows deer. And you could spend $2,000 dollars scouting southern az and kill a 100 inch buck. Like shooting cattle? Really man that is a bit of a stretch. After hunting Mexico for over 8 years I can tell you it's still hunting and there is no guarantee if you want to kill a big buck. Also AZbowhntr is far from a newbie and he had personally killed a great buck on the exact same ranch the previous year along with several other great bucks taken during the time he was there (pictures and story are posted on this site). It cracks me up that you seem to be a resident expert on everything from hunting MX, the San Carlos, Southern AZ, as well as all of the Northern units. Obviously everyone has their own opinions and experiences in which they pull from when viewing or discussing something but you seem to express yours in a negative manner to just about every post you respond to. Unfortunately it is responses and posts such as this that make this great site less enjoyable. My opinion anyway........Just like I should probably have kept my mouth shut and not posted this I don't see the point in posting something that degrades or talks down to the previous poster. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeeden Report post Posted January 30, 2014 I have to agree with Cramerhunts. Sonoran coues deer like shooting cattle? That must be a very remote ranch. I've spent a lot of time in Mexico and every deer we shot sure as heck seemed wild. The pressure is much lower, the deer density and quality is much higher, but it is definitely still challenging to shoot a giant. But then again I've spooked a lot of cattle in my day so there's that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
couesmagnet Report post Posted January 30, 2014 If hunting deer in mexico is like shooting cattle , than i'm the worst hunter there is on this site. I went down to mexico this year on a bargain super low density ranch for coues and got my rear end handed to me. Could have shot a few 100 to 105 bucks, but 4 deer days were depressing to say the least. I did see lots of cows and wild burros though. Also i don't know where your buying your tags but 2000 is average in mexico with several places being a lot less, so cost wise i don't see how the san carlos is so much cheaper. My hunt didn't even cost a 1000 dollars and i still had an opp. at some nice bucks. On the last day i missed a 113 type buck 3 times, probably a little buck fever involved with that one after 16 days of seeing next to nothing. Mexico is a bargain on a do it yourself basis, and i don't see how the rez. is any cheaper. Top end buck density is better in mexico for sure when compared to the rez. Tasty tag soup this year in mexico, very tasty for a 1000 bucks. Also in mexico, if your seeing any other hunters where your hunting, then something shaddy is going on. You shouldn't see another hunter in 30 days if your ranch is on the up and up. On the other hand we have always had other hunters in our area on the rez, so hunter density is way way higher on the rez verses mexico. Also mexico is only hunted by you and you only if your doing it right, on the rez. there is a tribal members hunt with tons of tags. Mexico ranches are hunted about 5 percent as hard as the rez gets hunted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seldom Drawn Report post Posted January 31, 2014 Hunting the rez isn't near as expensive as hunting in Mexico. I hunted Mexico this last year and didn't end up shooting anything. Saw lots of bucks just nothing big enough to shoot. So I could have saved about 2K and hunted the rez. You tell me which is the better deal. And you don't have to worry about a dozen other hunters on every ridge. My son in laws grandpa has a big ranch in Mexico I could never bring myself to shoot one it's like shooting cattle,how much did you pay to not kill in Mexico.If I were you I wouldn't book with whoever you did, no hunting pressure there what so ever,did you see pics of previous kills on this ranch.are you a newbie to hunting how many years have you hunted cows deer. And you could spend $2,000 dollars scouting southern az and kill a 100 inch buck. Like shooting cattle? Really man that is a bit of a stretch. After hunting Mexico for over 8 years I can tell you it's still hunting and there is no guarantee if you want to kill a big buck. Also AZbowhntr is far from a newbie and he had personally killed a great buck on the exact same ranch the previous year along with several other great bucks taken during the time he was there (pictures and story are posted on this site). It cracks me up that you seem to be a resident expert on everything from hunting MX, the San Carlos, Southern AZ, as well as all of the Northern units. Obviously everyone has their own opinions and experiences in which they pull from when viewing or discussing something but you seem to express yours in a negative manner to just about every post you respond to. Unfortunately it is responses and posts such as this that make this great site less enjoyable. My opinion anyway........Just like I should probably have kept my mouth shut and not posted this I don't see the point in posting something that degrades or talks down to the previous poster. I am no expert buy far I just have hunted more in 10 years then most will hunt in there lifetime,I am sorry if I hurt your feelings that wasn't my intent,I decided when I was a kid i would learn the whole state the best I could How many units have you or your friends killed in 30?,40?more?if you really think hunting Mexico is as hard as AZ, good for you there is no pressure there what so ever.are you an advid bowhunter or just a rifle guy.this is a great site if you don't like my posts don't read them,it is amazing to me how sensetive grown men can get when there fellings get hurt.good luck to you in the future.may Mexico be great to you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yumabowhunter Report post Posted January 31, 2014 Hunting the rez isn't near as expensive as hunting in Mexico. I hunted Mexico this last year and didn't end up shooting anything. Saw lots of bucks just nothing big enough to shoot. So I could have saved about 2K and hunted the rez. You tell me which is the better deal. And you don't have to worry about a dozen other hunters on every ridge. My son in laws grandpa has a big ranch in Mexico I could never bring myself to shoot one it's like shooting cattle,how much did you pay to not kill in Mexico.If I were you I wouldn't book with whoever you did, no hunting pressure there what so ever,did you see pics of previous kills on this ranch.are you a newbie to hunting how many years have you hunted cows deer. And you could spend $2,000 dollars scouting southern az and kill a 100 inch buck. Are you drunk?!?! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaffer62 Report post Posted January 31, 2014 People are going to hunt the rez or mexico, sometimes both.. Its really up to them.. Just being out there and chasing deer, doing what they love is sometimes all that matters. Some are willing to pay more than the next guy. I think the San Carlos or Mexico would be quite the experience, Will everyone shoot a 120" buck. No. Will they have a great time in new country? More than likely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cramerhunts Report post Posted January 31, 2014 Seldom you seem to be having trouble keeping things straight so let me help you out..... You didn't hurt my feelings as nothing you have said has been directed at me or anything I have a vested interest in until your last post. What difference does it make how many units myself or my friends have killed in? But just for fun I'd have to guess probably 90% of the units would fall into this category. I have a lot of friends that are spectacular hunters. Still don't see the point though? I never said hunting Mexico is as hard as hunting Arizona, still would have to argue that it isn't as easy as shooting cattle which is what prompted my post in the first place. I happen to be an avid archer that also likes to hunt with a rifle on given species, the point? I regress though as I'm sure none of these actually had a point but in your true fashion it was another attempt to degrade or talk down to a fellow forum member just as you did to AZbowhntr. You are right though as it is a great site and I don't have to read your posts....now where is that ignore button! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZbowhntr Report post Posted January 31, 2014 Seldom Drawn, I wasn't comparing southern AZ to Mexico. If you read my post correctly I was comparing the rez to Mexico. And I happened to kill the smallest buck out of the group the year before that was just a bit over 108". There was a 114" and also a 118" bucks taken on the same ranch. And the year before a 127" buck was taken off the same ranch. So I don't think that is too bad. Look back in the Mexico forum for mine and Ernesto's posts. Plenty of pictures for proof. I don't have a problem coming home empty handed at this stage of my life if I don't see what I want to shoot. As far as price goes it wasn't near as much as a lot of the hunts down there are. As for southern AZ I put in and get leftover tags every year. But I am not a fan of hunting with about 10 camps within about a 1/4 mile of mine and 10 other guys on the same ridge as me. Do I do it? Yes, because I like being out there for the experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
