idgaf Report post Posted January 22, 2014 After reading on the Sheep and Antelope forums, the criticism G&F got for trying to do something good. I realized that we are beginning to depend on Gov't for everything. I read some opinions how gov't needs to hunt more predators. Than i thought "What has the U.S. become, we now depend on Gov't to do even the things we enjoy, Hunting." That thought coupled with the lack of Antelope I saw on my elk hunt in prime antelope country, the amount of coyotes I saw within a hundred yards of elk and the 90% reduction in antelope permits gave me a new resolution. I will do my best to take 30 coyotes out of a concentrated area, 3b, this year and see if my little effort will help the big game animals in years to come. This one is the first. I am by no means an expert at calling but got this large male fifteen minutes into my first stand, no camo just levy's and a point loma sportfishing hoodie. I misplaced my lanyard with my goto calls and found a squeeker I had not used in a while. I thought for a second as I rolled him "Crap I just shot a wolf" 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kidso Report post Posted January 22, 2014 Wolf? Woops! Nice canine down! Love the old squeeker! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idgaf Report post Posted January 22, 2014 Thanks, I would call for a bit and then get an update on the early football game on my phone. I didn't notice but the coyote got within 25 yards before we noticed each other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SNEEKEE1 Report post Posted January 22, 2014 Like your idea to bad they don't give money for the tails or ears like some states. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wdenike Report post Posted January 22, 2014 I can understand your frustration. But you can not help an agency that is going the way of the forest service greenies. They didn't have enough arse in their pants to stop the vote to ban trapping in the state. When they didn't make it clear as mud that this in no way was an emotional voting issue, and was a cut and dry a game management issue. It became clear as mud that not only do they have no teeth. But are marching to the liberal greenie drums. They have become managers of the dollar, not game managers by a long shot. And they will continue to do so until they force grass roots Americans and their children out of the game. And when that is accomplished it wont leave any interest for the average citizen to vote on these issues because they have been priced out of the game. Leaving only the rich to vote on issues that should never have made it to the ballet box. And they will lose. Game over greenies win, and they didn't have to take our guns or bullets. Take care, Willie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThomC Report post Posted January 22, 2014 Nice coyote. But your not helping the G&F, you are helping yourself. And, the title will and already did bring out the haters. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MULEPACKHUNTER Report post Posted January 22, 2014 i like this idea, i too am planning doing my best to go after some predetors this year. i spend most of my hunting and scouting time in wilderness or remote areas and rarely see any people, i also dont see as much game as one would think. i believe this is do to the fact that not only is it tough to hunt deer or elk it is equally tough if not more to hunt predetors i these areas so the game numbers in wild barely touched areas are sometimes lower than heavy traffic areas. guys pic off yotes and lions in likely areas and no one hunts wilderness for them. i guess i need to learn to pack dogs with mules so i can go cat hunting. one thing that would help is offer up when your going out for dogs or cats and offer to hook up with other guys who need to learn and build up the community of hunters with the skills to call. i think game and fish should get involved and hire outfitters to hunt as well in specific areas, game wardens used to do nothing but hunt predetors. the herd of buffalo survived up north due to a game warden up there killing some 600 lion over his career 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pwrguy Report post Posted January 22, 2014 I have come to the same conclusion. In fact, I took my first yote of the year out of unit 22 this morning. I agree with ThomC, lets help the game and ourselves, who cares about G&F policy. I hope to become proficient and be able to eliminate some lions as well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Meyer Report post Posted January 22, 2014 Congrats on the nice dog Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scoutm Report post Posted January 22, 2014 Like your idea to bad they don't give money for the tails or ears like some states. I'd be happy with a bonus point - Kill 10 coyotes get a fawn conservation point. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idgaf Report post Posted January 23, 2014 I can understand your frustration. But you can not help an agency that is going the way of the forest service greenies. They didn't have enough arse in their pants to stop the vote to ban trapping in the state. When they didn't make it clear as mud that this in no way was an emotional voting issue, and was a cut and dry a game management issue. It became clear as mud that not only do they have no teeth. But are marching to the liberal greenie drums. They have become managers of the dollar, not game managers by a long shot. And they will continue to do so until they force grass roots Americans and their children out of the game. And when that is accomplished it wont leave any interest for the average citizen to vote on these issues because they have been priced out of the game.Leaving only the rich to vote on issues that should never have made it to the ballet box. And they will lose. Game over greenies win, and they didn't have to take our guns or bullets. Take care, Willie Gov't is Gov't they never seem to spend my money (and they take way to much of it) in the right places but when they at least try to spend it correctly, I will applaud them not hinder them with criticism. I am not upset with Gov't or frustrated, I am upset at people like you and me dependence on them. When we expect them to go out and hunt for us, something all of us on this board enjoy, we depend on them way to much and it is time to do something about it. ThomC is correct I am not doing this just for G&F, I am doing this for myself and the big game animals I treasure hunting. I believe this is called a win, win, win situation. I will give my fullest effort to taking thirty big game eating predators out of 3b this year to see if it helps. I will do this not because the Gov't told me so or gave an incentive to do so. I will do this because it needs to be done and it takes people like you and I to do something without being told to make this place better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
