DesertBull Report post Posted January 12, 2014 Game belongs to the people. Managed by the state govt. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bullelk11 Report post Posted January 12, 2014 That's the dumbest idea put Obama in charge of our wildlife lmao Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billrquimby Report post Posted January 12, 2014 Here is how ownership in Arizona breaks down: 42.1% Federal lands 27.6% Tribal lands 12.7% State Trust lands 16.6% Private lands Arizona's federal lands are under the jurisdiction of the Department of Defense, Bureau of Land Management, National Forest Service, National Park Service, Bureau of Reclamation, and the Fish and Wildlife Service. Bill Quimby 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billrquimby Report post Posted January 12, 2014 Here is how ownership in Arizona breaks down: 42.1% Federal lands, 27.6% Tribal lands, 12.7% State Trust lands, and 16.6% Private lands. Arizona's federal lands are under the jurisdiction of the Department of Defense, Bureau of Land Management, National Forest Service, National Park Service, Bureau of Reclamation, and the Fish and Wildlife Service. --- Bill Quimby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
khmer6 Report post Posted January 12, 2014 I have to agree, AZ probably has the best overall elk hunts. Antler number size etc taken all into account. Even with increasing tag numbers and azgfd selling more tags instead of managing for quality, there are still great units for quality and other units for quanity. I do wish they would reduce the cow tags tho. Seems like too many. But on the topic, I don't think a federal tag is the way to go. Fed tag the funding goes to the fund to spend on crap like fast and furious, at least keeping it with the agency will stay amongst azgfd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wdenike Report post Posted January 13, 2014 Wew!!!!! And they vote Take care, Willie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZLance Report post Posted January 13, 2014 I could see it now... there would be a website for the Federal Draw and it would be created by the same company that created the ObamaCare website... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertBull Report post Posted January 13, 2014 If you like your elk tag you can keep your elk tag 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muledeerarea33? Report post Posted January 13, 2014 />If you like your elk tag you can keep your elk tag hahaha!!! Nobody's trying to take your elk tag away, we're just trying to make sure everyone has the same opportunity to the elk tag. If you pre existing conditions (poaching or what not) you can still have your elk tag!! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertBull Report post Posted January 13, 2014 Keep the feds out of the hunting tag lottery Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snapshot Report post Posted January 13, 2014 At least Congress will be exempt from getting elk tags. Middle class folks will be paying more for elk tags, so the "Po folk" can get theirs cheap 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PackerMenges Report post Posted January 13, 2014 This is almost insulting. From your first post to your follow up comments of us not being open minded enough and there not being economics in it for the hunter. Surely you are being sarcastic... No one in their right mind can say there are no economics in hunting. There are vast amounts of money, budgeting, investing, and other practices that all fall under the realm of economics in hunting. From the hunter who hunts the game, to the agency who "manages" the game, economics is a major driving force that either allows us to hunt, or not. Open Minded enough? You have to be either ignorant or not live here to see the effects of getting the federal govt involved with not only managing species of animals but managing the lands. The negative results are astounding and numerous. Many threads before this point out reasons not to get the federal govt involved. Bottom line, this idea is horrible. Either you don't know what you are saying or you are enjoying watching the thread light up. I really hope for your sake, it is the latter. Way to get the fire started though. I do believe those of us that love the outdoors need to continue to be vigilant in making sure this particular scenario is never even close to becoming a reality. The ESA is bad enough and in my personal opinion, needs to be scrapped, based on "economics." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wdenike Report post Posted January 13, 2014 Do ya think along with Obama phones and Obama care there would be a chance to get Obama GUNS????? Just sayin Ya never know Take care, Willie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZLance Report post Posted January 13, 2014 ObamaTags... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertBull Report post Posted January 13, 2014 />ObamaTags... Can we bait? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites