joey lvr Report post Posted January 4, 2014 I got a blacks creek remedy 7 alternative pack for Christmas. I love this pack at first the weight was noticeable when held but after putting it on and walking threw the hills its not really noticeable at all. It comes with a detachable "grip" frame with haul shelf and wings on each side. After putting meat or other items you can still attach the pack to the frame. You can also buy two other size packs that zip onto the frame. If anyone else has one it be nice to here there opinion and experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites