High Fence Coues???

[jgabler]

I agree. I think that all game animals should be able to run wherever and whenever. That is what hunting is all about anyway isn't it. Trying to become smarter than the animal you are chasing in the "wild". I don't think that a high fenced enclosure is actually the wild or nature itself. Just IMO, you may as well go hunt on a deer farm or something of the sort if you are going to go hunt somewhere like that.

[longshooter]

I have to admitt just the idea of killing a coues in a petting zoo is pretty lame. I just don't understand why any one would shoot one in a cage and have courage to hang it on the wall for a trophy.

 

A trophy coues deer on your wall should be earned the hard way and not earned by sitting in a lawn chair waiting for the deer feeders to come on so you can shoot it.

[KGAINES]

I didn't see a link to that site from this one. Did I miss where this site supports them or did they just add a link from their site to here.

http://www.coueswhitetail.com/advertisers_...links/links.htm

[COUESAZ]

Yes it is a link from them to here. and yes that can be done with out Amanda saying they had the right to do it. How many day's total has this and the other post been put up. I would like to atleast see that they are asked to remove it from there site. We do not have to have an answer from the head of this site, but if we saw it removed that would be answer enough.

[blaserman]

This is what I say about so called Hunts like this. I believe this is not hunting but shooting. You know what kind of animal is there and what size ,because you ordered it that way.

They always say in there ads World Record ,not so because it can't be entered in the books that would say it is truly the worlds Record.

These kind of Shootng Preserves are for the lazy Deep pocketed people taking the easy way out.

I want to say that I worked hard for my animal no matter what size, if he's not big enough I 'll try again.

[CouesWhitetail]

Coues Deer Sanctuary is not an advertiser on this site. They simply have a link on their site to mine and to others like B&C and SCI. There are many other sites on the web that are not advertisers that provide a link to my site. I don't see it as a problem. The more links to this site the more people know about it. I am not going to add a link to their site or accept them as a sponsor. I don't support high-fenced, farm-raised game for hunting.

 

Amanda

[DEERSLAM]

Amanda,

Thanks for addressing this. This thread is the second time this topic has come up. Did you know the coues sanctuary had a link to CouesWhitetail before this? Did they have to ask permission?

[25-06]

Amanda Did you know the coues sanctuary had a link to CouesWhitetail before this? Did they have to ask permission?

Dude, If they had to ask for permission they would not have our link.......I love this site

[CouesWhitetail]

No, they don't have to ask permission, although most people do. They emailed me awhile back to exchange links. I checked the site out briefly and saw it was high-fenced and didn't pursue it. I didn't notice the link to my site previously.

 

Amanda

[DEERSLAM]

Amanda Did you know the coues sanctuary had a link to CouesWhitetail before this? Did they have to ask permission?

Dude, If they had to ask for permission they would not have our link.......I love this site

 

Dude, apparently they did ask for permission and still have our link.....I this site too

[billrquimby]

What no one has mentioned is that wealthy trophy collectors -- that's what they are -- who set out to fill their trophy rooms with the best specimens can hire someone who can take them by the hand and show them a free-ranging trophy buck within rifle range.

 

If enough money is there, someone will devote enough time afield to find what he wants.

 

If there's a whole lot of money and the guy wants a super super buck ... well, let's just say we don't want to know what might be done in the course of getting the high-roller his trophy.

 

Is this better than hunting behind wire?

 

[DEERSLAM]

You're 100% right Bill. Wealthy hunters who buy special tags and hire multiple guides to scout and sit on an animal till they can fly in an kill it isn't a whole lot different. I have hunted high fence ranches and can say that depending on the size of the property and the cover it can be and sometimes is a more difficult hunt. I know I am setting myself up here but to each his own. I can say with all honesty that some of my easest hunts have been on fair chase public land hunts. Let the rock throwing begin.

[bobbyo]

What no one has mentioned is that wealthy trophy collectors -- that's what they are -- who set out to fill their trophy rooms with the best specimens can hire someone who can take them by the hand and show them a free-ranging trophy buck within rifle range.

 

If enough money is there, someone will devote enough time afield to find what he wants.

 

If there's a whole lot of money and the guy wants a super super buck ... well, let's just say we don't want to know what might be done in the course of getting the high-roller his trophy.

 

Is this better than hunting behind wire?

 

Actually Bill, this is worse than high fence hunting. The deer in the Coues Sanctuary are not Coues deer. They are glorified domestic farm animals. They are born in pens and live their whole life on a farm. If some nimrod gets his yaya's by overpaying for a farm animal that he gets to slaughter, so what ,it really is not hunting.

 

In the case of free ranging animals being handed on a platter by any means necessary is hunting. Completely unethical hunting, but still hunting. We hunters are suppose to be SPORTSMAN and follow the rules of fair chase! In addition these high rollers which seems to include our most 'esteemed' bowhunting writers( supposedly the purest form of hunting) get to list their "trophys" in the only record books that count BC and PY. Well maybe the books souldn't count. This trophy hunting is getting to be completely bogus and will give all hunters a bad name to the general public. I harken back to when I was 12 and the winner of the deer pool at the MizPAH in Tonopah was not the hunter that got the deer with the biggest rack, but to the hunter that got the deer that weighed the most. There was even a prize for the tiniest deer. I miss those days.

Bob

[billrquimby]

Actually Bill, this is worse than high fence hunting. The deer in the Coues Sanctuary are not Coues deer. They are glorified domestic farm animals. They are born in pens and live their whole life on a farm.....Bob

 

Bob

 

I suspect the deer at the Coues Sanctuary have no idea that they are behind wire or that what they're eating is especially formulated to make them grow bigger antlers.

 

Deerslam has it right. It depends upon the size of the property and the cover. Let me add that it also depends upon the type of animal.

 

Enclose a pronghorn in 5,000 acres of wide-open antelope country and you can find it and chase it to a corner in 15 minutes.

 

Put a Coues deer in a similar 7.8-square-mile enclosure with broken country, brush and lots of cover, and it may take a few days to collect it. If there's no good place to glass and if you're unlucky, you may never see it in a month.

 

Bill Quimby

[JohnFriddle]

Who cares? It's not, and I don't think anyone is suggesting that it's fair chase... If someone wants to pay big bucks to have a a big buck grown for them, then go out and kill him behing a high fence, go for it... Is it that big a deal? I don't think it's neccesarily hunting either, but I don't want to see anything even remotely related to hunting banned, that is a slippery slope...