AZP&Y Report post Posted November 18, 2006 I thought this was pretty interesting. How many times has this happened to you? http://www.break.com/index/deer_from_the_matrix.html AzP&Y Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmc Report post Posted November 18, 2006 antelope, last year, 45yds, biggest antelope I've ever seen alive in my life.... I laughed for about an hour after he did that to me. Was awesome to see, just wish it would not have been me. cmc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SilentButDeadly Report post Posted November 18, 2006 My father-in-law had that happen to him with an antelope as well, except that the arrow hit the lope in the exact spot he was aiming - only thing was it had turned a full 180 degrees from where it was standing the moment he shot at it. When he pulled the arrow out he realized that it had entered from the opposite side the pronghorn had been facing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
missedagain Report post Posted November 18, 2006 thats a cool video, I had that happen on a bobcat, by the time my arrow got to where the cat was he was 6ft away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
COOSEFAN Report post Posted November 18, 2006 My father-in-law had that happen to him with an antelope as well, except that the arrow hit the lope in the exact spot he was aiming - only thing was it had turned a full 180 degrees from where it was standing the moment he shot at it. When he pulled the arrow out he realized that it had entered from the opposite side the pronghorn had been facing. I did the same thing, except when it hit the opposite side it was far back, two days later and two more arrows later i finally had em'. Made me wonder how ethical archery 'lope hunting really was? I was shooting a fast bow, perfectly tuned and shooting more accurately and consistently than ever before, and it still happened! Had it happen on a Coues at 18 yrds.....watched the arrow pass right where the lungs were a fraction of a second before the shot.....unbelievable reflexes! JIM> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tucson John Report post Posted November 18, 2006 Yup! That's the reason for everyone of my misses, all 6457 of them! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dave Report post Posted November 19, 2006 There are many factors that would make an animal jump the string. How alert the animal is and what they are wired on, smell, noise, what they see. I believe the further you are from the animal the better your chances are the animal will not jump the string. I believe an animal will jump your string more often at 15 yards than 45 yards. Can you tell when an animal knows something is wrong but hasn’t jumped yet? They are ready to jump but don’t know exactly what to do yet? Can you tell when an animal may see you and know something is wrong but is just curious? If the animal can smell you but can’t see you, they are wired. If the animal can hear you but not see you, they are wired. If the animal can see, smell, hear and identify you but has not ran, will he jump? If the animal does not see you, hear you, smell you but hears a noise, what will he do? I don’t think this is a question of if bowhunting is ethical for any certain animal, I think it is a question what do you do in a certain situation with a certain animal. What do you guys think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
COOSEFAN Report post Posted November 19, 2006 Hey Dave, you bring up valid questions. I believe a person can evaluate an animals state of awareness in a certain situation.......but does that mean it should make a difference of whether to shoot or not on a broadside animal at all? If I have an antelope at say 30 yrds broadside standing still.....I'll shoot regardless if he's feeding or looking at me, it should be a perfect shot......right? I guess you never know what they'll do at the release of the string, but as long as you take all the neccessary precautions with practicing and your equipment, you have done all you can do..... follow through and hope he stands still On the other hand, you can compensate for the probability he'll duck at the shot and aim low.....but if he doesn't....it'll result in a bad shot or luckily a miss It's a tough call on that one but I know it's better at waterholes to let them start drinking 'cause at that point, they're calmed down and distracted, anywhere other than that....it's unfortunately a gamble. I have heard farther shots will have less probability of them ducking, and I tried it on my 'lope, but it has never held true for me. I have it on video of my 'lope, feeding broadside, calmed down by the decoy I sat behind, jumping and turning completely around only after the arrow was halfway to him at 60 yrds! I was on my game for that hunt and was completely confident in my ability and equipment at 60 yrds....and it didn't matter. I would never say bowhunting is an un-ethical means of take on any animal.......BUT, I have wondered a couple of times. I will still try to tag another archery 'lope or finally get one of them Couesies, I just hope he doesn't jump the string like the one in that video did Thanks, JIM> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dave Report post Posted November 19, 2006 I will never forget the time I was crawling through the grass stalking these antelope when a lightning bolt hit close by. Good thing I was laying on the ground in the grass so the antelope couldn't see the affect it had on me. None of them even flinched. Go figger? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites