Mountainman Report post Posted December 9, 2006 I too have noticed that mountain lions have started to hunt in packs. I have also noticed that they have changed their behavior in the past 31 years. I believe that it is because the Puma concolor has started breeding with the African Lions that were introduced into Northern Sonora and Southern Arizona in 1975. This breeding has caused the mountain lion to hunt in packs just like the African Lion. It just so turns out that in the past six years, 92.67% of the toms I have killed have had miniature manes. These manes, if left untrimmed, will grow quite long and the mountain lion of the Americas will start to resemble the distant African Lion. Folks, this will cause quite a problem. Just think of the consequences. We already have a big enough problem with mountain lions, we don't need to bring these special hybrids into the scene! These special African Lion/Mountain Lion hybrids will turn out to be like the Liger. They will be roaming the countryside, wreaking havoc on all living creatures and causing ruinous damage to the deer population. It will be a calamity that none will ever forget. I don't even want to imagine these ravenous beasts and the holy mess that they could bring. My advice is for you is to exercise extreme caution when you are hunting, because you could become a meal for these mountain lions that travel in packs, or their hybrid relatives that hunt in prides. They are out there, I have seen them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
El Fuego Report post Posted December 9, 2006 Mountainman, Here is my question. Who is trimming the manes of these ligers? Could it be Napolean Dynamite Kee up the research. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mountainman Report post Posted December 9, 2006 I am not at liberty to say who is trimming the manes of these wild beasts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the breeze Report post Posted December 9, 2006 Mountainman, Here is my question. Who is trimming the manes of these ligers? Could it be Napolean Dynamite Kee up the research. Vote for Pedro Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coues7 Report post Posted December 9, 2006 Mountainman......welcome to CW.com and thanks for you input.....but whatever it is your smokin' there in the heart of the big apple you better lay off the stuff. Mountain lions breeding with African Lions??? The ones you've killed have had miniature man?? These manes, if left untrimmed, will grow quite long and the mountain lion of the Americas will start to resemble the distant African Lion?? YEAH.....IT MUST BE NAPOLEAN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
El Fuego Report post Posted December 9, 2006 vote for Pedro Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NativeRat Report post Posted December 11, 2006 Found this limited discussion of african lions possibly interbreeding with puma: http://www.messybeast.com/genetics/anomalous-bigcats.html Hope this turns out to be mythical. I came close to a lion while bowhunting solo this fall, and don't really want to get real close to a pack of lions while I'm out there alone. I've only got one tag . . . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
missedagain Report post Posted December 11, 2006 I can't believe you guys haven't heard of the liger before... there like my favorite animal! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azcouesandelk Report post Posted December 11, 2006 I can't believe you guys haven't heard of the liger before... there like my favorite animal! I watched a show on that thing. 900 pounds and ugly. Cross bread between an african lion and a siberian tiger I believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mountainman Report post Posted December 11, 2006 Bred for its skills in magic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muleybull Report post Posted December 11, 2006 Having grown up in a small pro hunter town and being friends with a lot of guys that hunt (lions with dogs) for a living, I have heard this a thousand times. During any hunting season you can get daily reports of lion sightings, tracks, kills, etc. Everyone is always seeing lions, some guys see them everytime they walk outside. But I can probably count on one hand how many of these reports turned out to be an actual lion. Most lion hunters wont even listen to this kind of stuff. Me, I think its funny. Keep chasing the magical lion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstcoueswas80 Report post Posted December 11, 2006 Having grown up in a small pro hunter town and being friends with a lot of guys that hunt (lions with dogs) for a living, I have heard this a thousand times. During any hunting season you can get daily reports of lion sightings, tracks, kills, etc. Everyone is always seeing lions, some guys see them everytime they walk outside. But I can probably count on one hand how many of these reports turned out to be an actual lion. Most lion hunters wont even listen to this kind of stuff. Me, I think its funny. Keep chasing the magical lion. what do you believe it to be? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muleybull Report post Posted December 11, 2006 Tough to say, but I'd bet its not packs of lions. Anytime anything bad happens, its either Bush's fault or it was lions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mountainman Report post Posted December 12, 2006 It is not Bush's fault. It is the packs of magical lions that are really hurting the deer population. Drought, coyotes, etc has nothing to do with deer populations. Ok, well, I might be telling a little fib. They're not magical lions, they're just packs of lions. A pack of mountain lions is a normal every day occurance in the natural world. I've talked to a lot of old mountain lion hunters over the years and they always said they would tree packs every other week or so. Heck, I can remember one time when I treed 19 lions in one tree. There was so much weight in the tree, branches started breaking off. The next thing I knew, the tree got uprooted because it couldn't stand the weight of the big pack of lions. They were all over the place like a bunch of bumblebees. All in all, I counted 9 toms, 6 females and 4 kittens. I only wish I would have had a hand grenade to take them all out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRED8R Report post Posted December 12, 2006 ALLIGATORS IN THE SEWERS!?!?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites