deserttacoma84 Report post Posted November 25, 2013 Sold Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ajohunter Report post Posted November 25, 2013 Wow! Very nice rifles! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rugermack Report post Posted November 25, 2013 great rifles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benbrown Report post Posted November 26, 2013 Might want to get a second appraisal... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Couescrazy33 Report post Posted November 26, 2013 Thx benvrown but we have had them looked at a few times.. The 243 is less than 100 serial numbers away from pre ww2 per two appraisals one which is in writing.. Both also are in excellent condition.. Two local guns stores both appraised then within 100 dollars of each other Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deserttacoma84 Report post Posted November 26, 2013 Peoples opinions of what guns are worth will vary. There has been interest by those that know what these are. Prices on the internet are all over the place. These were guns owned by a collector, NOT a hunter. Primarily "Safe Queens". The .243 does say SuperGrade on the bottom metal. I am 90% sure that the 375 has the same inscription. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hunt4horns Report post Posted November 26, 2013 The number are close. Definately not junk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
levers Report post Posted November 26, 2013 I'm confused by the statement that the 243 is less than 100 numbers from being pre WWII. Winchester introduced the 243 in 1955. What are the serial numbers? Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rugermack Report post Posted November 26, 2013 WWll 1939-1945 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deserttacoma84 Report post Posted November 26, 2013 I will try to get the serial numbers posted tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benbrown Report post Posted November 26, 2013 Thx benvrown but we have had them looked at a few times.. The 243 is less than 100 serial numbers away from pre ww2 per two appraisals one which is in writing.. Both also are in excellent condition.. Two local guns stores both appraised then within 100 dollars of each other I don't mean to be critical. If the .243 is in 95% or better condition, the appraisal for it is reasonable. However, not having the rifle in hand, I can only deduce from the photos that the .375 H&H did not come from the factory in its present configuration. It does not have a factory Super Grade stock and the rear sight is missing. Some Super Grades did come from the factory without sights, but all of the .375s that I have seen have had them. This one still has the front sight, but one screw hole for the rear sight is visible in the second photo, and it does not even have a filler screw. It's value as a non-original, "custom" Model 70 Super Grade is whatever someone who likes "California" stocks with roll-over cheek pieces and "white line" accents will pay for it. However, it would have minimal value to a collector of Winchester rifles. The value of custom rifles is almost always a function of the reputation of the gunsmith who built them, and the components account for a relatively modest portion of the appraised value. Do you know who modified this rifle? If it was a well-respected builder, that could inflate the value somewhat, but it is not typical of the gunsmiths whose customs command top dollar these days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
biglakejake Report post Posted November 27, 2013 both modified. less than collectible. but i am not the expert-just another buyer. try Jim Bernstien at Globe Music. he has cash. good luck, lee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deserttacoma84 Report post Posted November 27, 2013 Im just relaying the info from 2 gunsmiths. Just trying to help a family member out sell a couple of guns from an estate. I know very little about pre 64's. Thought the CWT family would be a good place to start to see them off to a good home... As stated above, we are negotiable... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benbrown Report post Posted November 27, 2013 If I were you, I would go back to the "gunsmiths" who appraised them and offer to sell the rifles to them at their appraisal prices. If they agree to buy them, that is very likely the best deal that you are going to get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stray Horse Report post Posted November 27, 2013 Thx benvrown but we have had them looked at a few times.. The 243 is less than 100 serial numbers away from pre ww2 per two appraisals one which is in writing.. Both also are in excellent condition.. Two local guns stores both appraised then within 100 dollars of each other I don't mean to be critical. If the .243 is in 95% or better condition, the appraisal for it is reasonable. However, not having the rifle in hand, I can only deduce from the photos that the .375 H&H did not come from the factory in its present configuration. It does not have a factory Super Grade stock and the rear sight is missing. Some Super Grades did come from the factory without sights, but all of the .375s that I have seen have had them. This one still has the front sight, but one screw hole for the rear sight is visible in the second photo, and it does not even have a filler screw. It's value as a non-original, "custom" Model 70 Super Grade is whatever someone who likes "California" stocks with roll-over cheek pieces and "white line" accents will pay for it. However, it would have minimal value to a collector of Winchester rifles. The value of custom rifles is almost always a function of the reputation of the gunsmith who built them, and the components account for a relatively modest portion of the appraised value. Do you know who modified this rifle? If it was a well-respected builder, that could inflate the value somewhat, but it is not typical of the gunsmiths whose customs command top dollar these days. +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
