capoeirajosh Report post Posted November 7, 2013 />I shoot an arrow that's around 420gr. That's a Cabela's Carbon Hunter 65/80 at 29" with 2" XPV (Blazer) vanes and a NAP Killzone Trophy Tip. Buddy, you gotta go carbon- it truly is a better mouse trap. Oh, I fully plan to go carbon eventually. I was kind of waiting until I got a new bow to do so. Hopefully, I will be able to get one by the end of the year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scooter Report post Posted November 7, 2013 My dad shoots an older reflex (Hoyt) dual cam from the 90's... The only upgrades he's done in the last 10 years were a biscuit and carbon arrows... He kills a buck every year up in NY and still shoots a fair amount of 3D. Shoot Em off of any bow! Old or new bow- your draw length ain't gonna change a whole lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capoeirajosh Report post Posted November 7, 2013 The problem is my rest. It is too wide for carbon. They fall right through it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capoeirajosh Report post Posted November 7, 2013 I could put a biscuit on instead. Point is, I would have to change out my rest in order to shoot carbon. I probably should just do that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Curtis Reed Report post Posted November 9, 2013 486 total grain arrow. I shoot FMJ 340's with Quik Spins and a large arrow wrap. 100 grain tip... I have never not had a full pass through, hits like a Mack truck 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wtlathen Report post Posted November 28, 2013 Shoot ibo specs and you will be fine. 5grns of arrow weight per pound of draw. 70lb bow shoot a 350 grain arrow and so on. You keep your speed and plenty of energy. The bow will tune great as well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elkhunter1 Report post Posted November 28, 2013 Shoot ibo specs and you will be fine. 5grns of arrow weight per pound of draw. 70lb bow shoot a 350 grain arrow and so on. You keep your speed and plenty of energy. The bow will tune great as well. If you shoot a long draw like 31" and up wouldn't you be under spined at the ratio? I am I wrong at understanding IBO speeds that are on the bows are generated at a 28" arrow as light as they can get it? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wtlathen Report post Posted November 29, 2013 Good point bud. You very well could be depending on the arrow and your poundage. According to a lot of the charts when your arrow hits a certain length you will need to jump up in spine. At a 31" inch draw you have the luxury of shooting that real heavy arrow and keep up speed. You are one of the lucky ones. I am jealous of people with that draw length. I am stuck with a 28" draw and my arrows are cut down to about 26 1/2. I also shoot a max weight of 61lbs. So when I build an arrow, I use it for everything. I try to stay around 345grns. That keeps me over spined and still gives me some speed. Around 292. I know guys that shoot a 400 plus grain arrow out of bows under 70lbs at 300fps. So you are very lucky. Good luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elkhunter1 Report post Posted November 29, 2013 My draw is actually 28.5". My weight is70lbs and my arrows are 416grns. I just didn't want this guy thinking that all arrow lengths are the same. That could land him in the hospital when the bow explodes from an under spined arrow that comes apart. I have had a bow come apart when the half-round on the upper limb failed. My mom found me on the ground, "lights out!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snapshot Report post Posted November 30, 2013 To hunt dangerous game in Africa, there is a mandatory 80lb draw weight minimum, and a recommended 800-900 grain arrow weight. That's alot of arrow. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snapshot Report post Posted November 30, 2013 My draw is actually 28.5". My weight is70lbs and my arrows are 416grns. I just didn't want this guy thinking that all arrow lengths are the same. That could land him in the hospital when the bow explodes from an under spined arrow that comes apart. I have had a bow come apart when the half-round on the upper limb failed. My mom found me on the ground, "lights out!" Ouch. I did the same thing once with an old Bear Compound. I took it apart to put a camo paint job on it, and I put the limbs back on in reverse, At the indoor range, I drew it back the first time, and .....WHAM. the cams broke off, and I hit myself in the face so hard, I about knocked myself out. The cool thing was, I sent it back to Bear archery, and they put brand new limbs and cams on it for free. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elkhunter1 Report post Posted November 30, 2013 My draw is actually 28.5". My weight is70lbs and my arrows are 416grns. I just didn't want this guy thinking that all arrow lengths are the same. That could land him in the hospital when the bow explodes from an under spined arrow that comes apart. I have had a bow come apart when the half-round on the upper limb failed. My mom found me on the ground, "lights out!" Ouch. I did the same thing once with an old Bear Compound. I took it apart to put a camo paint job on it, and I put the limbs back on in reverse, At the indoor range, I drew it back the first time, and .....WHAM. the cams broke off, and I hit myself in the face so hard, I about knocked myself out. The cool thing was, I sent it back to Bear archery, and they put brand new limbs and cams on it for free. I was lucky, one big knot and a set of half-rounds later I was shooting again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MULEPACKHUNTER Report post Posted December 1, 2013 This got me thinking so I weighed my arrow for the first time. Full metal jackets cut to 29 inches 100 grain trophy heads weigh in at 473 grains and they crony at 290 fps. I have been wanting to drop my arrow weight so this now convincecan't . I cant shoot targets without pass through and its a pain Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seldom Drawn Report post Posted December 2, 2013 I have shot over 30 animals with cedar and aluminun arrows you don need carbons unless that all your bow shop sells, I like at least 430 grains i could care less about speed. Seldom drawn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GotBowAz Report post Posted December 2, 2013 MULEPACKHUNTER, just change your targets and keep your set up. that's a perfect combo for elk. Shoot a 65lb 28 inch draw, 475 grain FMJ's tipped with a Killzone max. IMO, anything under 400 grains is not heavy enough for elk regardless of BH choice. I shoot the same set up for everything. Over kill for Coue's but im not changing set ups 2 times a year. GBA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites