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2014: Unit 1 archery or Unit 3B early muzzleloader?

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I have 15 points finally stashed away for AZ elk. My oldest son (23 years old) has 10 points, he is an accomplished archery hunter, several bucks on spot and stalk, but he has never had a quality elk hunt or killed a bull. He'd be crazy thrilled with a 320+ class bull. I would like to hunt for a 340+ class bull (I have three bulls 335-367). I'd like to get advice on what you would apply for. I think these are our best options:

 

Unit 1 archery: My son and I would have an excellent chance of drawing in 2014 if we applied together.

 

Unit 3B early muzzleloader: We would likely not draw if we put in together, but possibly would draw in 2015. I like the idea of an early firearm hunt.

 

Unit 9 archery: As a non-resident I am at least 5 years from drawing on my own.

 

Unit 10 archery: I could probably draw on my own, but not with my son.

 

Unit 23 North or South: I could possibly draw on my own, but not if we applied together.

 

Unit 1 Late Rifle: My wife, son and I could draw if we combined out points. It would be my wife's first good elk tag.

 

Thanks in advance for your opinion.

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You've waited 15 years. DONT settle for a late tag!

 

Any time you're hunting elk in the early season is a good time. Nothing like hearing a bull bugle in the cool morning. Although, it can get pretty warm during the day.

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Yep...you both are thinking what I'm thinking. My choices are listed from best to worst....the Unit 1 archery and 3B muzzy are my top picks.

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Yep...you both are thinking what I'm thinking. My choices are listed from best to worst....the Unit 1 archery and 3B muzzy are my top picks.

im kind of surprised it took you this long to draw. have you been putting in for early bull rifle? since i got drawn this year youre kind of scaring me lol

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Yep...you both are thinking what I'm thinking. My choices are listed from best to worst....the Unit 1 archery and 3B muzzy are my top picks.

im kind of surprised it took you this long to draw. have you been putting in for early bull rifle? since i got drawn this year youre kind of scaring me lol

Pretty much have put in for early firearm hunts. Just building points until I could pick the year to draw. My last tag was in Unit 9 around 2000 or 2001. It was a drought year and was uber tough, one bull in bow range.

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Yep...you both are thinking what I'm thinking. My choices are listed from best to worst....the Unit 1 archery and 3B muzzy are my top picks.

im kind of surprised it took you this long to draw. have you been putting in for early bull rifle? since i got drawn this year youre kind of scaring me lol

Pretty much have put in for early firearm hunts. Just building points until I could pick the year to draw. My last tag was in Unit 9 around 2000 or 2001. It was a drought year and was uber tough, one bull in bow range.

just keep putting in for early rifle bull.

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Yep...you both are thinking what I'm thinking. My choices are listed from best to worst....the Unit 1 archery and 3B muzzy are my top picks.

im kind of surprised it took you this long to draw. have you been putting in for early bull rifle? since i got drawn this year youre kind of scaring me lol

Pretty much have put in for early firearm hunts. Just building points until I could pick the year to draw. My last tag was in Unit 9 around 2000 or 2001. It was a drought year and was uber tough, one bull in bow range.

just keep putting in for early rifle bull.

As a non-resident...I'm 10 to 15 years away from that.

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I am 90% leaning towards my son and I trying to draw a Unit 1 archery tag together (13 points combined). Would you do it if you were me?

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probably the archery, but put in for a different unit cuz im putting in for 1 too ;)

 

Ha ha...don't worry, I won't compete with you as a non-resident :D

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Unit 1 over 3B any day! There are a lot of tags now hence a bunch of people but there will always be virtually unhunted pockets of country. Good luck!

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I don't think you'll have a snowballs chance in Phoenix for 3b early muzzy putting in together. I'd go unit 1 archery, and the heck with Trphyhntr he had that 1 tag this year.

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I don't think you'll have a snowballs chance in Phoenix for 3b early muzzy putting in together. I'd go unit 1 archery, and the heck with Trphyhntr he had that 1 tag this year.

hey, you know Carl guided a dude on that early 3b muzzy hunt one year. got a fukkin toad brah.

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