Snapshot Report post Posted October 26, 2013 I have been shooting Easton A/C/C arrows for years. They are reasonably light, strong, and hold up well. I was thinking about switching to full carbon. I don't mind spending the coin on the best arrows out there. Question is....what do you think the best Carbon arrows are for hunting? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted October 26, 2013 gold tip xt hunters Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creed Report post Posted October 26, 2013 That's kind of like asking what is the best truck, Dodge, Ford or Chevy. You are going to get a lot of different answers. I have shot just about all of the top of the line arrows out there at one time or another. Right now I am shooting Carbon Express Maxima Reds. They are a great arrow. When I have lost or busted them and need another dozen it will be Victory. You are going to be hard pressed to beat Victory arrows for an all around arrow. When you look at the price for the quality you get there is nothing out there that will beat them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
123456 Report post Posted October 26, 2013 I recently switched from being a long time Carbon Express user to Victory. My new bow was shooting the light arrows too fast for my liking so I switched to a heavy arrow. I shoot the victory VAP's with the 92gr. stainless outserts. My arrow weighs in @ 442 grains and my bow slings them @ 280 something. I love how the arrows look, shoot and the amount of penetration I get with them. I am no longer able to shoot most standard targets. These arrows usually burry up to the fletchings if the target is not newer or one of higher quality. Having said that, I honestly think the overall quality of the Victory arrows are considerably less then that of Carbon Express. I have never had an issue with Carbon Express arrows. With Victory, I have to have both ends of the arrow cut, so I know they are square. From the factory, I have noticed atleast 10% of their arrows are not square on the nock end. Also, the nocks are very weak. They break considerably easier than any other arrow I have ever shot. If you buy a dozen Victory's, plan on getting 10 that will pass the spin test. I will say that this year I shot an antelope, deer and elk and all 3 were pass thru's. All shots were thru ribs, so I did not get to see how they perform on shoulder shots. I am going to continue to shoot these victory's, but I am sincerely hoping they bring their quality control up, so I do not have one more thing to worry about while archery hunting. If I were to get a different arrow, I would probably switch to an Easton Axis or something else that is the smaller diameter with more grains per inch than most. I love the 92 gr outsert on Victory. Gives you a very high front of center and cuts thru wind better. Ok there is my .02 cents. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snapshot Report post Posted October 27, 2013 I had never heard of Victory arrows until you guy's mentioned them. I went to their website to check it out. The dealers they listed for Tucson, are PSE, and Bull Basin archery. Since Bull Basin is/was, a sponsor of CWT.com, I will go down and see them, and see what Victory arrows look like, and check the prices. I am shooting a new PSE Brute X in 70Lb. Draw. I am going to have Bull Basin install a quality string and cable setup. Thanks for the info. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scooter Report post Posted October 27, 2013 Maxima reds and maxima Blue streaks, CF radial x weave, and I've heard good stuff about Easton FMJ's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elpepe25 Report post Posted October 27, 2013 I have shot a lot of differing arrows in the past 20 years, For straightness and consistency you still cannot beat the acc or the X7. The victory VAP is a great arrow in the small diameter category and I would definitely favor them over the Easton Axis. The Easton Excel is one tough mother in the mid-size/mid weight category and an extreme value. As far as carbon express goes, I've had major problems with spine consistency even in their higher end arrows. I would take a little less straightness and slight weight differences over inconsistent spine. And their "dual spine/ weight forward technology" is proven Hokum. Gold tip is another solid choice, they have the new Kinetic arrows in the small diameter category that are doing well in Field and FITA venues. Great shafts can be had for $60-$300 a dozen, just depends on what you value most-tight tolerances or cash in your wallet. Most folks cant see a true benefit from the ridiculously tight tolerances anyway. Just make sure you don't drink the Kool-Aid and marketing ploys, get an arrow with a finished FOC in the 12-15% range, plenty of spine (cannot over spine an arrow), and a middle ground on total weight (greater than 6 grains per pound of draw weight). An arrow with the above specs and plenty of fletch with helical will be easy to tune regardless of broadhead selection. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coach Report post Posted October 27, 2013 Easton ACC pro hunting is my current favorite - switched from Gold Tip which were also very good arrows. A buddy of mine who has shot ACCs for a long time switched to Maxima. I haven't shot them yet, but this guys shoots professionally for Hoyt and I honestly don't know anyone who is a better shooter. His 100 yard groups are tighter than most guys' 40 yard groups - and that's not an exaggeration. The next arrows I'll try will be the Carbon Express Maxima red - but the ACCs are shooting like lazers out of my Hoyt so I have no reason to change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
afmalinois Report post Posted October 27, 2013 I used to shoot Gold Tip XT's but I've been shooting Carbon Express Mayhems for a few years now. They are a pretty heavy arrow but they hit critters like a cinder block! I've been very impressed with their toughness as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snapshot Report post Posted October 27, 2013 I have been checking out some Carbon Express Maxima arrows also. Particularly, the Blue Streak. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
123456 Report post Posted October 27, 2013 I used to shoot the blue streaks. The quality of the arrow was great. I only switched to get a heavier arrow. The blue streaks are a very light weight arrow. As I posted above, I did not like how fast my bow was flinging these guys. I also noticed a big difference in wind drift, when I went to a heavier arrow. Many will argue that speed is the end all be all, but after having both fast, light weight arrows, and heavy average speed arrows, I will always go with the heavier. Again, if you want a light weight arrow, the blue streak's quality is fantastic!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snapshot Report post Posted October 27, 2013 Great info guys. My PSE Brute X, has an advertised IBO speed of 320 fps. I shoot at 70lb. draw weight, and a 29.5 inch draw length. What would be the best overall arrow weight for this setup. Something with a good blend of speed, toughness, and good kinetic energy? Would you recommend a 100, or 125 grain broadhead ? I was using 100 grain on my Easton ACC's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elpepe25 Report post Posted October 27, 2013 From 3-d/field/fita archery shoot the heaviest arrow you can at the speed you deem acceptable. Weighty arrows are always going to be more efficient (Higher KE, momentum, quieter, more piercing in the wind). I like 125 grain points to keep the foc up on a heavier shaft. Higher foc fights wind better, is more stable in flight and applies KE better for enhance penetration. For me 280 fps is plenty fast enough, so I shoot the heaviest arrow I can keep at 280 fps. You can dump all of the energy from these new super bows into a heavy wind bucking, stable, bone crushing, quiet shaft. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
123456 Report post Posted October 27, 2013 From 3-d/field/fita archery shoot the heaviest arrow you can at the speed you deem acceptable. Weighty arrows are always going to be more efficient (Higher KE, momentum, quieter, more piercing in the wind). I like 125 grain points to keep the foc up on a heavier shaft. Higher foc fights wind better, is more stable in flight and applies KE better for enhance penetration. For me 280 fps is plenty fast enough, so I shoot the heaviest arrow I can keep at 280 fps. You can dump all of the energy from these new super bows into a heavy wind bucking, stable, bone crushing, quiet shaft. Exactly my thought process. I shoot 100gr heads because I already have a 92gr stainless outsert. Plenty of FOC. My bow is IBO'd at 335 and I shoot low 280's with a 442 gr. arrow. I like 280-290 FPS for my speed preference. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creed Report post Posted October 28, 2013 Recently Carbon Express quality has taken a dump. A good friend just had 5 out of 24 Maxima Hunters spin true. Haven't had any issues with Victory's being fragile but I shoot the V1's and they are a heavier wall arrow than the VAP's. But I am dying to get a dozen VAP's. I have heard lots of good things about them. There are many quality arrows out there. The ACC's are one of the best. Don't really see how you can go wrong with top end Carbon Express, Easton, Goldtip or Victory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites