rifles and calibers...

[Workman]

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Well I do have to admit that much of this is based on my own Eastern experience, but I have been out on a range with 500 yard available, and at 400 and 500 yards, I shoot my .270 much better than I do a 7 mag or a 300. This is all supposed to be all about fun anyway...I see forums here about taking Coues with a muzzleloader and a bow, and I doubt those guys consider 300 yards a 'chip shot.' and in the lever action question here, there is a gentleman who uses .444 Marlin...If that makes you happy/..have at it! That's the whole point...I'm just saying I am happier using the classic calibers...I don't care if you use a .460 Weatherby, (considering it would take a big Coues to hit 110 lbs, I'd say that would be touch overkill though) but if you enjoy it, use it. I am happy with my .270

 

Couldn't agree with you more!

 

I personally have not shot a coues at more than 30 yards haha My rifle is a 30-06 and while its not a old fashion round I wouldn't trade my trusty 06 for anything.

 

How in the world did you arrive at the conclusion that 30-06 SPRG is NOT an old fashioned round???

haha well I guess I meant it is not as old fashion as others. I know it been around for a while

a while... yes.

i think 30-06 is older than everything mentioned. .444 marlin, 7mm, .300win, .460 wby, .270

1906-present for 30-06. GTS

[muledeerarea33?]

I'd love to own a magnum!! I have a few .22mags if that counts? My collection consists of mostly older obscure rounds inherited from family. My dads 06 that I shoot and my late uncles rem 600 .243 that I shoot still are under an inch MOA at 500 yards. I've been looking for a long magnum action that I can build a 300 win mag out of. Recoil doesn't bother me I'm a big guy. No break, just lots of powder and a bullet. I may turn my pops 06 into a 6.5 but can't bring myself to do it yet.

[macknnc]

ready2hunt: Oh no problems..I was using the "you' in a generic sense...I never for one second thought you were putting me down.

 

Muledeer: I am not anti magnum...though I can see why you would think. For the most part, they simply do not suit me. Possibly I read too much O' Connor growing up, (I've heard that charge too)...but ...let me put it this way...you see a Coues 350 yards away...you place your 117 gr bullet from your .250 Savage right in the heart lung area...(and yes a .250 will do that) You've got your Coues. That shot placement from that rifle will kill any whitetail, Coues or not, that ever lived. And with a .270, 350 yards is indeed, a 'chip shot.' So why would I, repeat I, that is me myself and I, bother with a magnum? What you do it with, does not matter to me. As long as it is legal, so I don't get in trouble hunting with you..and reasonable so I don't have to help you chase a wounded animal into Mexico...other than that...if it suits you, I'm all for it! I just purely hate seeing so many perfectly good classic calibers falling by the wayside because they are a bit gray-haired. (Personally I bet a Savage 99 in .250 with low end varible scope would be almost made to order for Javelina)

 

and I forget who asked but yes here in the East, a 200 yard shot would be typically very long, except at one or two deer hunting clubs I've seen...in face open sights and the 2 3/4x scope are still very popular here...

 

and if I am remembering right, the .44-40, the .45-70,.30-30, the .30-40 are the oldest rifle cartridges in that order with the .30-06 ,first designed in 1903, refined into its present form in 1906, just missing that list...the .270 is a 1925 model....

[muledeerarea33?]

I never thought you were anti magnum, you don't really have a need for it in N.C. Do you? Out here it's a bit different. If you shoot it well and aren't afraid of it then its your best gun.

[PRDATR]

The 30.06 is the Marilyn Monroe of cartridges.

[Scooter]

I've shot almost a dozen deer with an old Winchester 28" smoothbore 12ga with a bead sight. I probably could get it done on a Coues with the same old shotgun. Just saying. But I prefer to use a rifle

[308Nut]

I don't consider the 3006 to be an old fashioned round. With the constantly changing, by changing I mean improving components the 06 can do things today that were a pipe dream 25 years ago. A well put together rifle with the right powder and bullet will handle deer to a grand plus with ease. The components we have today modernize it very well IMHO.

 

Hunting means different things to different people and their choices of weapon styles and calibers reflect that. Some guys draw a muzzleloader elk tag and use an inline, sabots, scopes, smokeless powder ect... Others use more traditional types with round lead balls and patches while dressing up in buckskin outfits. Nothing wrong with either. One may be about the odds of success and another about nostalgia. If it makes you happy, is legal then by all means do what you please.

[MT_Sourdough]

You read Jack O'connor and I'll read Pondoro Taylor. What's the TKO of your dinky little 25's. My 444 with a 420 gr Hard cast at 1850fps produces a TKO of 48. So if a Coues is standing on the other side of a water buffalo, I'll be in good shape.

Sorry, I've gotta have some fun with this.

Honestly,a 250-3000 in a 99 is a dandy little rifle indeed. And the 257 Roberts, well, jeez if a guy could have one of every cartridge that interests him, I'd have me a 257 Roberts, but I'd own a friggin 100 rifles. I don't, I have just a few.

I first started using a 444 back in Montana where I hunted elk in back country on Grizzes turf. A little different than where your from and here

I learned to love shooting a 444 because I became addicted to the physicality of the the shoot. Shooting smaller calibers is just not as fun for me, now. I shoot thousands of cast bullets in my 3 444s and at full gusto. Put's a smile on face every time I pull the trigger. The small groups I can produce with it makes me smile as well.

Plus, I choose a 444 for tiny Coues because I am working from the starting point, - what if you had just one gun to do it all? You know, back in the olden dayz, common folk didn't have the option of choosing from a dozen rifles/cartridges for their different quarry. They used what they had and shot well. I'm thinking the 44 Winchester Center Fire as an example. So, with that in mind, I want to do it all with my 444. After hunting season, I'll be working with a new 187gr bullet that I am pushing around 3000 fps from my 444. That one's waiting for load development. I call it the Chino Valley bullet and I made it to be used for coyotes, Coues and Antelope.

By the way, though the 444 would turn 50 this next year if Remington hadn't killed it. It's lineage/heritage actually dates back to the 1870's when a very similar cartridge nearly beat out the 45/70 for the Gubberment contract. Uncle Sam liked the heavier bullet for longer ranges and therefor chose the 45 caliber.

[macknnc]

ah no problem...actually I thought your .444 approach to Coues hunting was pretty unique which is why I mentioned it in this thread and is one I admire and the one rifle for everything thought has considerable merit and one I have given some thought too, but I think my choice would be a .35 Whelan... and I have a John Taylor book too...and I've read Elmer Keith, who was not one of O'Connor biggest fans...I just set off by a friend here whom I ran into at the range, and was going on and on about my .270...He uses a .25-06...which uses a lighter and faster bullet than my .270...

[rclouse79]

I like my 270 tikka just fine. I think these posts are funny. Out of the blue somebody says "Here is what I like. Now tell me what you like and why what I like sucks or is awesome. Then we will pat each other on the back or argue about it" I guess if you are bored it gives you something to do. My non-expert opinion is a good rifle depends less on the caliber and more on the brand, the scope on top of it, developing a hand load to optimize your groups, and the amount of time you spend practicing with it.