firstcoueswas80 Report post Posted October 26, 2006 well, i am now a official licensed arizona guide! i have my first hunt this weekend in unit 32. i am working for/with an outfitter who knows the area. i am hoping for the best and am excited/confident! wish me luck! i leave tomorrow around 130 pm! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bullwidgeon Report post Posted October 26, 2006 What experience do you have in 32? How much time did you scout for your client? What about general knowledge of the game hunted? If I payed for an outfitted and guided hunt and the guide had less experience than I did in that area and on the particular critter that is being hunted I would want my money back. Is that an unfair opinion to have? I reckon being a guide isn't all it is cracked up to be. Good luck, more importantly good luck to the client .. Bret M. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
COUESAZ Report post Posted October 26, 2006 Well put Bret. Casey i am sure you are a great guy. And this is not said against you in any way. I am glad you got your Lic and want to guide. The guide field has been flooded to the gills in AZ. That is why i got out of it this year. It atkes a diferent kind of hunter to be a guide. I am ready to hunt for me again. My son is coming up and ready to hunt with me. Enjoy it while you can. And learn the right way to guide. To be the best you can be you need to do it full time and not just during hunting season for a few days. Each unit is very much diferent than the units around it. People are going to rely on your evry move and choice you make for them in the field. They will know when you are feeding them full of it to try and not look like a bad guide when you can not get them on a deer. Be ready for people that will try and chew you up and spit you out for not performing to the fullest for them. Most of theese guys are wealthy and will make you relize that through most of the hunt. They will push your buttons and drive you Mad and then when you get them that chance they will miss and screw up the stock, And it will all be your fault. They will talk about that at camp with evry one there. If you can deal with that kind of crap you just might do ok. I have seen it hapen to me as well as other guides and outfitters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JACK Report post Posted October 26, 2006 Your hobby just became a JOB! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimhm Report post Posted October 26, 2006 well, i am now a official licensed arizona guide! i have my first hunt this weekend in unit 32. i am working for/with an outfitter who knows the area. i am hoping for the best and am excited/confident! wish me luck! i leave tomorrow around 130 pm! Congratulations on getting your guides license. Keep in mind that you are going to meet a lot of different people. Some of them you will wonder why in the world they are hunting in the first place and others will become life long friends and that makes it worth it. Try to learn as much as you can about the unit you are in from the other guides and the outfitter. The outfitter should line you out on where to go and how to approach the hunt whether it is the morning or evening hunt. He needs to know where all the guides are going to be working and how the area fits the different guides and hunters and there ability's. You alway's want to have a positive attitude. Attitude and confidence will be the difference between a good hunt or bad hunt whether there is a kill or not. Also pay attention to the hunter as far as his limit's and ability's. You don't want work them out on the first day, take it as far as they are comfortable but you will need to gauge that. That will come with experience. Never ask the client what he wants to do or where he wants to go. You need to have the game plans and options that you can share with your hunter if you want and get his opinion on which one he would like to do. Some hunters like to have some say in it but don't let them make the game plans. There are a lot of other suggestions but the most important is paying attention to the client even at camp. Make sure they have everything they need that your camp can offer. That will help greatly on a good tip from the hunter. Good Luck Jim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ernesto C Report post Posted October 26, 2006 Casey, I wish you the very best, God bless you out there my friend. Hopefully the outfitter/guide you are working for teach and train you well. I hope he has some type of strategy or method to teach you........for example you can suggest him to put you with an experience guide or with him self. Listen to the questions they ask him and also to the things he respond. Pay attention and learn the area; imagine that you are the client...what will you want from your guide. I believe Duwane Addams has some "guide classes" or something like that,you can attend his class or call him and ask questions. Also there are several guides in this forum, some of them will come forward and will try to point you in the rigth direction and bless you with their wisdom and experience; and to the ones that dont.......dont be afraid to ask. You are in a learning position and very young,the worst thing you can do is not to try..........is not going to be easy but.........how will you get experience if they dont let you try? Like I said ask question and learn to so you can be and give the best of you. I'm not a guide Casey, but if I were one I will teach and tell you the do's and donts, right now I just can say.....God bless. Ernesto C Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wetmule Report post Posted October 26, 2006 After guiding deer hunters here in AZ and throughout the west for 24 years, I can say you must be a little loco to want to do it especially in an area you are unfamiliar with. Hope you deal with pressure well. The best advice I can give you is to be honest with your client no matter what comes up, tell him or her you will bust your butt for him, do your best and let the chips fall where they fall. Have fun and a positive attitude and you'll do fine. Good luck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azpackhorse Report post Posted October 26, 2006 When you're done in 32 just hop across the ol' Pedro there and punk my buck out for me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EBB Report post Posted October 26, 2006 I had a Guide License in Arizona for Fishing in the early 80's. I was Tournament Bass Fishing and everybody and their dog wanted me to take them out. After I got the License and people would ask to go with me I'd quote them a rate. Sure cut down on the "when you gonna take me fishing" questions. EBB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatfootdoc Report post Posted October 27, 2006 congrats casey, Is he holding out for an 8 inch spike? I hear you have no trouble finding those(shooting them maybe)but not finding them Good luck. ag Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
az4life Report post Posted October 29, 2006 Casey I think Wetmule had a really good take on the situation. Heed his advice and you won't ever get yelled at for misrepresenting your experience in a particular unit. Good Luck on your new career! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wetmule Report post Posted October 31, 2006 Whats up first coues, no report on your maiden guiding voyage ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstcoueswas80 Report post Posted October 31, 2006 ill take that as you really want to know, even though i dont think thats the case. showed my client a bunch of deer and a bunch of bucks, opening morning he passed on a 65" 3x3 at 250 yards right off the bat. glassed up a 75+ moving thorugh the bottom thickets but couldnt find him agian for a shot. last day, he missed a 500 yard shot at another 3x3. we all had a blast and saw a ton of deer. nobody killed, not even the client that was with the head guide/outfitter that knew the area well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hunt4horns Report post Posted October 31, 2006 Casey just keep doing what your doing and your gonna do fine. Every guide has had their first client and thats a fact . You've got to start somewhere even just to find out if it's actually what you want to be doing. Good job and good luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesWhitetail Report post Posted October 31, 2006 Glad to hear it all went well. Keep up the good work Casey! Amanda Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
