BeardownAZ Report post Posted December 2, 2013 Gotta hand it to ASU...they took care of business...Didn't see the wildcats being able to pull off back to back upsets...hard to do...also don't see ASU beating Stanford. Stanford and OR are not all that. Stan lost to UT and USC. OR lost to Nogales North. PAC12 is tough. You get better by playing tough teams, not patsies. big10 is weak. ohio st barely beat an unranked mich team. hopefully Mich St can knock them out this weekend. Auburn is tough. pretty amazing to see the turn around they had along with Missouri this year. Yes Big 10 is weak yet you guys barely beat Wisconsin (at home) on some botched officiating. You know darn well they should of at least got a field goal try out of it. Beat Sacramento State and got it handed too you by Standford and lost to Notre Dame. So your not making your case as being so much better than or better at all then Stanford or Oregon. The Pac12 isnt tough right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SunDevil Report post Posted December 2, 2013 Gotta hand it to ASU...they took care of business...Didn't see the wildcats being able to pull off back to back upsets...hard to do...also don't see ASU beating Stanford. Stanford and OR are not all that. Stan lost to UT and USC. OR lost to Nogales North. PAC12 is tough. You get better by playing tough teams, not patsies. big10 is weak. ohio st barely beat an unranked mich team. hopefully Mich St can knock them out this weekend. Auburn is tough. pretty amazing to see the turn around they had along with Missouri this year. Yes Big 10 is weak yet you guys barely beat Wisconsin (at home) on some botched officiating. You know darn well they should of at least got a field goal try out of it. Beat Sacramento State and got it handed too you by Standford and lost to Notre Dame. So your not making your case as being so much better than or better at all then Stanford or Oregon. The Pac12 isnt tough right now. Check this out. ohio state is 7th on this power index but 2nd in BCS. this is driven by their weak schedule and flawed polls that drive the BCS. SEC and Pac12 lead the way with 7 and 6 in the top 20. ACC, Big12 and Big10 are down with 3, 2 and 2. SEC and Pac12 are tough this year in college football. all other conferences are a step down from those two. ASU's games against Wisc, Stan and ND were 2 - 3 months ago. You don't think ASU is any better now than back then? I guess 7 wins in a row does not count for anything, including wins against Wash and UCLA (on road). also, ASU has home field advantage this Saturday and that is huge. http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/teamratings/_/tab/fpi 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeardownAZ Report post Posted December 2, 2013 Gotta hand it to ASU...they took care of business...Didn't see the wildcats being able to pull off back to back upsets...hard to do...also don't see ASU beating Stanford. Stanford and OR are not all that. Stan lost to UT and USC. OR lost to Nogales North. PAC12 is tough. You get better by playing tough teams, not patsies. big10 is weak. ohio st barely beat an unranked mich team. hopefully Mich St can knock them out this weekend. Auburn is tough. pretty amazing to see the turn around they had along with Missouri this year. Yes Big 10 is weak yet you guys barely beat Wisconsin (at home) on some botched officiating. You know darn well they should of at least got a field goal try out of it. Beat Sacramento State and got it handed too you by Standford and lost to Notre Dame. So your not making your case as being so much better than or better at all then Stanford or Oregon. The Pac12 isnt tough right now. Check this out. ohio state is 7th on this power index but 2nd in BCS. this is driven by their weak schedule and flawed polls that drive the BCS. SEC and Pac12 lead the way with 7 and 6 in the top 20. ACC, Big12 and Big10 are down with 3, 2 and 2. SEC and Pac12 are tough this year in college football. all other conferences are a step down from those two. ASU's games against Wisc, Stan and ND were 2 - 3 months ago. You don't think ASU is any better now than back then? I guess 7 wins in a row does not count for anything, including wins against Wash and UCLA (on road). also, ASU has home field advantage this Saturday and that is huge. http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/teamratings/_/tab/fpi The 7 game win streak absolutely does count, as it should. But games 2-3 months ago still counts too. If ASU wins, (easily makes a better argument) and wins the Rose Bowl against the best Big 10 team, those loses wont really matter at that point. I just think the conference as a whole is too inconsistent. Bowl games and non-conference is where they need to take care of business. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ForkHorn Report post Posted December 2, 2013 Lol at a guy who roots for the team that had a losing record in the PAC 12 and just lost to ASU 58 to 21. The only game that matters to ASU at this point is on Saturday. If they win they're in the Rose Bowl, if they don't then they're not. ASU has the third ranked strength of schedule in the country. Attempting to discount anything they have done is ridiculous. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SunDevil Report post Posted December 2, 2013 SOS rankings. Top 3 teams are from Pac12. 8 of top 20 are from Pac12. RK TEAM W-L SOS RK ADJ WIN% AVG GM WP ADJ GM WP CHAMP 1 Utah, Pac-12 5-7 1 0.695 0.494 0.692 69.4 2 California, Pac-12 1-11 2 0.171 0.232 0.142 16.3 3 Arizona State, Pac-12 10-2 3 0.960 0.671 0.918 94.9 4 Virginia, ACC 2-9 4 0.355 0.378 0.387 36.3 5 Purdue, Big Ten 1-11 5 0.132 0.291 0.214 15.3 6 Georgia, SEC 8-4 6 0.874 0.583 0.834 86.4 7 Stanford, Pac-12 10-2 7 0.950 0.715 0.947 94.9 8 Washington St, Pac-12 6-6 8 0.752 0.481 0.644 72.5 9 Notre Dame, FBS Indep. 8-4 9 0.868 0.531 0.719 83.0 10 Virginia Tech, ACC 7-4 10 0.789 0.587 0.778 78.6 11 UCLA, Pac-12 9-3 11 0.932 0.629 0.881 91.9 12 Colorado, Pac-12 4-8 12 0.433 0.375 0.354 41.3 13 Iowa State, Big 12 3-9 13 0.319 0.360 0.327 32.1 14 USC, Pac-12 9-4 14 0.850 0.657 0.898 86.2 15 TCU, Big 12 4-8 15 0.429 0.434 0.478 44.1 16 Florida, SEC 4-8 16 0.425 0.452 0.532 45.2 17 Mississippi St, SEC 6-6 17 0.675 0.511 0.642 66.7 18 Kentucky, SEC 2-10 18 0.156 0.337 0.231 17.4 19 Pittsburgh, ACC 6-6 19 0.649 0.481 0.561 62.7 20 Iowa, Big Ten 8-4 20 0.826 0.640 0.869 83.7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muleskinner Report post Posted December 2, 2013 Wildcats #2 in mens bball...game with Michigan in a couple weeks...who cares about the Rose Bowl? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SunDevil Report post Posted December 2, 2013 Wildcats #2 in mens bball...game with Michigan in a couple weeks...who cares about the Rose Bowl? exactly, they get the same amount of money regardless if they go to a bowl or not. for 10 straight years they sponged off from the other teams in the Pac10 by not contributing to the conferences bowl revenue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muleskinner Report post Posted December 2, 2013 I lived in Tucson in the late 70s and thru the 80s...Arizona was 13-6 with one tie from 1980-1989 in the territorial cup, including 5 in a row at one point. All of the jokes that ASU fans are spouting now, were being directed at ASU then. The tide will turn again at some point just as it always does...unless you're talking about ASU basketball. They are consistently sucking hind tit behind U of A! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devilincatcountry Report post Posted December 3, 2013 Sucking hind tit?? Have you seen your hockey team? Figured I'd throw that out there since every time your mildrats hit skid row year after year we ASU fans have to listen to-- our basketball team this our basketball team that!! Well with that being said it's still football season at ASU!!! You skumrats enjoy your holidays watching ranked teams play in notable named bowls on national t.v. And your mild kittens play in the litter box against Bowie high on kuat!!! Happy holidays!!!! Go Devils!! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZLance Report post Posted December 3, 2013 ASU basketball just fell to 110th in the RPI rankings just behind Cleveland State and Louisana-Monroe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
resolute Report post Posted December 3, 2013 Wasn't this a football thread? Oh yeah, it was started by a wildcat so. When in doubt fall back to b ball....or girls ping pong.... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flatlander Report post Posted December 3, 2013 />Stop changing the subject. U of A sucks at football. +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muleskinner Report post Posted December 3, 2013 Seems like I did reference football in my comment...apparently all you read was the basketball comment. Makes me think that you have a fixation on basketball in spite of your comments to the contrary. Down deep you must cry yourself to sleep at night while in a fetal position...all because you have no reason to believe that your basketball program will ever be anything but a sub par program! Meanwhile Wildcat fans can at least remember when the football team sent ASU home crying for several years in a row. Enjoy your football victories while you can...the tide will turn! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
resolute Report post Posted December 3, 2013 Seems like I did reference football in my comment...apparently all you read was the basketball comment. Makes me think that you have a fixation on basketball in spite of your comments to the contrary. Down deep you must cry yourself to sleep at night while in a fetal position...all because you have no reason to believe that your basketball program will ever be anything but a sub par program! Meanwhile Wildcat fans can at least remember when the football team sent ASU home crying for several years in a row. Enjoy your football victories while you can...the tide will turn! I would imagine the comments about going to basketball were in reaction to post immediately above...not six back as yours was.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZLance Report post Posted December 3, 2013 This was last year... I would guess this year will be similar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
