Road hunters in NM 23

[WFGinNM]

I was wondering how bad the road warriors really are in 23 when the hunt starts? I know there are 50 coues tags for the first hunt, but... there about a million mulie tags as well. In the past (8 years ago) I ran into some locals that only hunt "blacktails", no kidding that is what they told me, said that whitetails were to small to bother with. Anyway are guys really hunting all over each other there? It has to be better than the days of old when it was over the counter.

I know that I might ask a bunch of questions about hunting coues in southern NM, but if anyone needs info about north central NM the Jemez Mountain area (6c) I'd be glad to help out. It's a tough draw but the muley populations are starting to show some really promising young bucks with nice spreads and impressive trash, just hard to locate in the steep thick mountains (not easy glassing country). Yes we have plenty of elk, turkey, bear and cats (lion and bobs) as well.

 

Thanks,

--Bill

[bullwidgeon]

Road hunting was rampant there in the OTC days. I havent drawn since the went to draw so I have no idea now...

Bret

[TAM]

In a couple areas I've been to the road warriors seem to be out in force! However my experience is that the areas that seem to hold good populations of coues are not that close to the roads which usually means you don't see many other hunters in the field. Like any public land hunts anymore, get just one mile from the road and you will loose about 95% of your competition.

[Redman]

Last year, the militias were out in force, these guys should go to Iraq, not deer hunting. 4-6 guys in the back of a truck, some are standing while others are sitting in chairs driving on any thing that resembles a road. This year it should be fun with the high grass, somebody may get run over.

 

Redman

[4Falls]

This will be my first time hunting in NM since theyve gon to a draw. And yes the raod hunters are crazy thick over there. But I think that helps the guy who not afraid to venture out of the cozy confines of the pickup bed. The Coues in that country seem to be well off the road anyway and after the first few days most of the mulies with any inckling of self preservation are too.

I have a lot of relatives from the Silver City area and they call there mulies "blacktails" also and also use eastern count when describing antlers. Weird.

Ill be in 23 in a couple of weeks, but Ill be chasing mulies, er, I mean blacktails.

Good luck to us all.

[fatfootdoc]

They are usually thick in there, if only the deer were as obvious as the road hunters. Some big booger eating moron on a 4 wheeler just about put a cap in my you know what a few years ago on a muzzleloader hunt in 23. The idiot rode(off road I might add) through the flat I was glassing and then drove right up to where I was glassing from to look around!! Anyway of course of all times to trip and stumble I did it walking out from behind the tree I was glassing from and the big goober cocked his muzzleloader and started to lift it, I was waiting for the impact of the bullet(and thinking about how you crap yourself when you die violently) when he realized that deer walk on all four and I was stumbling on two legs. Anyway, that was the last time I hunted anywhere near a road. AG

[crazyaboutcoues]

Why is it weird to count all the points and call a muledeer a black tail? A mule deer has a black tail?????? The buck does have ten points????????

 

 

We call a cows deer a cooze deer. Why do AZ boys call a buck that has ten total points a four point? Now that's weird.

 

He he...It's funny...when I talk with my AZ buddies I call them four points or four by threes. When I talk with my family or NM buddies I call it a ten pointer. In Northern NM they call them a 5x5.

[Redman]

Biologist still differ on what to call the mule deer. Some still call it a black tail. I think its funny tht New Mexico uses yellow on their license plate

 

Redman

[crazyaboutcoues]

New definition for Mule deer. CARP

[WFGinNM]

"Why is it weird to count all the points and call a muledeer a black tail? A mule deer has a black tail?????? The buck does have ten points????????"

 

 

"New definition for Mule deer. CARP "

 

 

Tomorrow after school my son and I are headed to Magdalena for the unit 17 youth deer hunt, Hopefully he can shoot a Black-tailed mule-carp deer. With... umm... at least 2 or is that 4 pointy things, maybe 6 counting the brow tines if they are at least an inch long.

 

--Bill

[crazyaboutcoues]

Good Luck on your boys hunt WFG. I'll be helping out a friend in the Burro Mountains youth hunt this weekend.

 

If we take a Coues buck I hope it's a four point; if we take a muledeer I hope it's a ten pointer. hehe

[Webber]

Dude, it's not as bad as it used to be because it's not over the counter anymore. But you'll still see alot of road hunter.

[Rembrant]

It is incorrect to call a mule deer a black tail because there is another deer called a blacktail in the Northwest. The proper name for a mule deer is CARP. Names are often discriptions of what the animal does. A carp is a bottom feeder, right?

The whitetail on the other hand is one of the most beautiful sights in the world as it raises its flag and runs across the elevated mountainscapes which rise above the dust and smog of the desert floor.

The reason you N.M. fellas are confused about how to count points is because of your proximity to Texas.

Texans tend to exagerate, everything is bigger there, blah, blah, blah. Heck, in Texas they think a point is legitimate if you "can hang a ring on it". Of course they're gonna count all the points, that way you get a bigger number. Ever play cards with a Texan? I have. Caught 'em cheatin at Uno!!

You guys should be more like the Arizonans; We are secure enough in our masculinity to only count one side and leave the brow tine of to boot!

That's all I'm gonna say about that.

Mike

[WFGinNM]

Well here's hoping that I can find a 14" spike with 3 or 4, 5'' to 6" kicker points.

 

--Bill